# Please nerf the Sisters Combat probes **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [September 3, 2025, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005 "2025-09-03T19:00:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/61 "2025-09-04T14:38:08Z")
> [@John\_Aurthur](#): > > Your only option is to warp out of the site any time someone enters the system, enjoy the tedium. Why are you doing this? ---
**Author:** ![Rocket\_Hellfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rocket_hellfire/32/396905_2.png) [@Rocket\_Hellfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rocket_Hellfire)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/62 "2025-09-04T14:47:03Z")
NO. no, but in smaller letters. ---
**Author:** ![Akkar\_Kardashev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akkar_kardashev/32/514189_2.png) [@Akkar\_Kardashev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akkar_Kardashev)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/63 "2025-09-04T15:04:47Z")
> [@John\_Aurthur](#): > > You can’t just cloak up when you’re locked by rat You can warp out of the site, cloak, warp back, wait. If your “thief” enters the site, decloak and engage. Where’s the hard part? [quote=“John Aurthur, post:57, topic:497005, username:John\_Aurthur”] You clearly don’t understand [/quote] Stop being condescending when you’re the one who’s dense. ---
**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/64 "2025-09-04T15:26:04Z")
But why would anyone combat scan in HS? I can see some special cases (like attempt to gank someone known to fly expensive fit ships) but not when you see two tengus arriving…. 🤨 ---
**Author:** ![Aisha\_Katalen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aisha_katalen/32/387724_2.png) [@Aisha\_Katalen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aisha_Katalen)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/65 "2025-09-04T15:41:51Z")
Minmatar HS is quite small and patchy, meaning that most escalations happen outside HS. It also doesn’t have as many players as most other areas so once it gets know certain people run anomalies for escalations they get added to the target list. So if a person who knows what he’s doing running his own anoms/sigs/escalations notices someone like that in local then it’s just a quick probe scan and presto: he found himself a DED site, goes “lol” and then the dps race happens to determine who will own the loot. Guess who that is. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Drew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_drew/32/395254_2.png) [@ISD\_Drew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Drew)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/66 "2025-09-04T15:47:43Z")
bumped this into #EVE Technology and Research Center > Player Features & Ideas ---
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/67 "2025-09-04T16:01:39Z")
If I understand the issue, this is not having to hide from pvpers who scan you down and kill you, but “pvp” pver’s swooping in and out dps you at the final boss in high sec. I think the example was two tengus out dpsing your cyclone and stealing the boss from you. Two tengus are going to beat a cyclone, it is not really fair if they don’t. This is one thing that one has to accept, even in high sec, because eve is a pvp centric sand-box. You are just going to be straight up outclassed at times. If you are a solo player and you are being out gunned by multiple other people working as a group, there is not much you can do. In any endeavor a single player is going to struggle against a group working together. It you are always having your boss shot out from underneath you the only thing to do is move or make friends. Even in high sec these sites are a competitive free for all. ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/68 "2025-09-04T16:33:12Z")
> [@John\_Aurthur](#): > > None of these protect you from the dscan/probe trick except flying a dscan immune ship. You missed when people said you can have combat probes 0.25AU from you to detect force recons trying to sneak into your site. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/69 "2025-09-04T16:46:44Z")
> [@John\_Aurthur](#): > > The only counter play to the specific situation I’ve described is warp out of the site anytime anyone else is in the system. You can also easily check the first gate into the escalation with either an alt or with combat probes. You do not need to warp out any time a hostile enters your system. Edit: Oh it seems Malak repeated that point just before me. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Aurthur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_aurthur/32/456397_2.png) [@John\_Aurthur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Aurthur)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/70 "2025-09-04T16:55:23Z")
Please read all the comments, you do not understand what I am suggesting. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Aurthur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_aurthur/32/456397_2.png) [@John\_Aurthur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Aurthur)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/71 "2025-09-04T16:56:36Z")
The problem isn’t getting away from other players, the problem is that the only viable option for doing so is very tedious. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Aurthur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_aurthur/32/456397_2.png) [@John\_Aurthur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Aurthur)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/72 "2025-09-04T16:57:08Z")
Read all the comments, you’re not understanding what I am suggesting. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Aurthur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_aurthur/32/456397_2.png) [@John\_Aurthur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Aurthur)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/73 "2025-09-04T16:58:46Z")
I know this, the problem is that constantly warping in and out of a site (which has to be done any time someone enters the system) to protect it from the dscan/probe combo is tedious. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Aurthur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_aurthur/32/456397_2.png) [@John\_Aurthur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Aurthur)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/74 "2025-09-04T16:59:33Z")
This is answered many times by comments already made. ---
**Author:** ![T\_Elliot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_elliot/32/453851_2.png) [@T\_Elliot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/75 "2025-09-04T17:02:45Z")
I have read all the comments of this thread. I think I understand you. You don’t want to deal with the free for all nature of these sites and want to make other people work harder to be able to take the site from you. Is that not what you are proposing? Seeing how so many people don’t understand your point, maybe you need to clarify what you mean. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Aurthur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_aurthur/32/456397_2.png) [@John\_Aurthur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Aurthur)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/76 "2025-09-04T17:05:50Z")
The fact that you don’t understand that these sites are in null/lowsec even though I stated it in the original post, and that fact has been restated many times in the comments tells me that you are lying when you say “I have read all the comments of this thread”. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/77 "2025-09-04T17:08:24Z")
It’s pretty confusing and conflicting to hear about ‘tengus stealing your site with more dps’ and ‘null or low sec’. Generally outside HS it’s one or the other. Hostiles don’t do a dps race for the site, instead they will first kill you. So which is it? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Aurthur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_aurthur/32/456397_2.png) [@John\_Aurthur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Aurthur)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/78 "2025-09-04T17:10:31Z")
I don’t know why, but its beyond the scope of this discussion. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/79 "2025-09-04T17:11:05Z")
How is it beyond the scope of this discussion if it is the direct cause of this thread? It helps us to understand your point of view if you explain why you think what you think, what your experiences are, and why you think that should be different. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Aurthur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_aurthur/32/456397_2.png) [@John\_Aurthur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Aurthur)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/80 "2025-09-04T17:13:14Z")
The direct cause of the thread is that dscan/probes make escalations tedious for the pve’re. if the pve’re loses his ship that’s his own fault, I’m not complaining about lost ships (this has already been explained). I complaining about the tediousness of warping in and out of a site multiple times to protect the escalation from the dscan/probe trick. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005.md?page=5)