# Please nerf the Sisters Combat probes

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005>\
**Category:** Player Features & Ideas\
**Created:** [September 3, 2025, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005 "2025-09-03T19:00:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![John\_Aurthur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_aurthur/32/456397_2.png) [@John\_Aurthur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Aurthur)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/101 "2025-09-04T18:41:36Z")

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The reason for the push back is because people refuse to read and, contrary to their claims, do not understand how the game works. My complaint is about the tedious method that must be used to protect an escalation, nothing more.

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**Author:** ![John\_Aurthur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_aurthur/32/456397_2.png) [@John\_Aurthur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Aurthur)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/102 "2025-09-04T18:43:34Z")

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@Akkar_Kardashev please address this.

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**Author:** ![Akkar\_Kardashev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akkar_kardashev/32/514189_2.png) [@Akkar\_Kardashev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akkar_Kardashev)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/103 "2025-09-04T18:43:37Z")

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> [@John\_Aurthur](#):
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> The reason for the push back is because people refuse to read

Aaand again with this.

No one’s refusing to read. Everyone understands very, very clearly what you’re begging for.

Advantage for you, disadvantage for others.

Prove that my statement is false. Don’t say I’m wrong, show me I’m wrong.

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**Author:** ![Akkar\_Kardashev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akkar_kardashev/32/514189_2.png) [@Akkar\_Kardashev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akkar_Kardashev)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/104 "2025-09-04T18:44:04Z")

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I already addressed it, now who doesn’t read? Fool.

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**Author:** ![John\_Aurthur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_aurthur/32/456397_2.png) [@John\_Aurthur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Aurthur)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/105 "2025-09-04T18:48:03Z")

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I think you’re having trouble navigating the forum software, my question still stands if I am bad at the game why do you want me to leave …? Doesn’t that mean less prey for hunters?

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**Author:** ![Akkar\_Kardashev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akkar_kardashev/32/514189_2.png) [@Akkar\_Kardashev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akkar_Kardashev)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/106 "2025-09-04T18:49:22Z")

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> [@Akkar\_Kardashev](#):
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> We want people who are going to play the game and not fill their nappy every time something doesn’t go their way.
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> We also want an environment free from blue haired vegans trying to muscle in and reshape the game for them - You’ve already done that to much of the rest of the world, work places and HR departments and the likes.
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> Not here. Eff off.

READ FOOL

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**Author:** ![John\_Aurthur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_aurthur/32/456397_2.png) [@John\_Aurthur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Aurthur)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/107 "2025-09-04T18:50:21Z")

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Sorry I didn’t realize you were a community developer for CCP. I’ll show myself out.

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**Author:** ![Akkar\_Kardashev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akkar_kardashev/32/514189_2.png) [@Akkar\_Kardashev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akkar_Kardashev)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/108 "2025-09-04T18:50:51Z")

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Bye have a beautiful time

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**Author:** ![John\_Aurthur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_aurthur/32/456397_2.png) [@John\_Aurthur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Aurthur)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/109 "2025-09-04T18:56:21Z")

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Seriously though, do you have any suggestions for making this particular aspect of the game better or do you agree with Gerard that the game should be unfun and tedious?

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**Author:** ![Akkar\_Kardashev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akkar_kardashev/32/514189_2.png) [@Akkar\_Kardashev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akkar_Kardashev)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/110 "2025-09-04T18:59:15Z")

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When you argue in bad faith like this, you just make everyone want you gone.

Arguing that someone is against a thing, and therefore must be in favour of another thing? Fox News wants it’s political debate style back!

The advice has been clear from the start, but I shall reiterate for the avoidance of doubt:

![16598](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/6/2/8629c5387495066d0c5ccabab08b7b19ace5f9db.gif)

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**Author:** ![John\_Aurthur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_aurthur/32/456397_2.png) [@John\_Aurthur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Aurthur)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/111 "2025-09-04T19:00:00Z")

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you can just say “no”, also its super weird that you keep dragging politics into this.

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**Author:** ![Akkar\_Kardashev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akkar_kardashev/32/514189_2.png) [@Akkar\_Kardashev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akkar_Kardashev)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/112 "2025-09-04T19:01:15Z")

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> [@John\_Aurthur](#):
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> its super weird that you keep dragging politics into this

Oh nice try but GTFO with this.

Obviously this comment now tells me you’ll be weaponising community flags as well, if you haven’t already started (of course you have!).

What a snivelly little weasel.

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**Author:** ![John\_Aurthur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_aurthur/32/456397_2.png) [@John\_Aurthur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Aurthur)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/113 "2025-09-04T19:03:20Z")

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I AM SO SURPRISED THAT YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH COMMUNITY FLAGS /s

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**Author:** ![Akkar\_Kardashev](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/akkar_kardashev/32/514189_2.png) [@Akkar\_Kardashev](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Akkar_Kardashev)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/114 "2025-09-04T19:05:16Z")

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**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/115 "2025-09-04T21:06:49Z")

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> [@John\_Aurthur](#):
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> The problem isn’t getting away from other players, the problem is that the only viable option for doing so is very tedious.

It’s low effort, doesn’t require much and you do it while mindlessly PVE’ing…you just can’t be asked to worry about your own safety. It’s like checking your mirrors while driving, it’s fast, easy, and second nature to good drivers, all while keeping you and your passengers safe.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/116 "2025-09-04T21:22:30Z")

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> [@John\_Aurthur](#):
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> The problem isn’t getting away from other players, the problem is that the only viable option for doing so is very tedious.

What is tedious about checking your 0.5 AU probe scanner for new ship sigs and your dacan while hostiles are in your system?

You just continue doing the escalation as usual but instead of watching Netflix, chatting with your corp or browsing the forum at the side you now keep an eye on the probe scanner window for a minute until the hostiles move on.

It doesn’t even slow you down!

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**Author:** ![John\_Aurthur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_aurthur/32/456397_2.png) [@John\_Aurthur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Aurthur)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/117 "2025-09-04T21:23:39Z")

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I’m not trying to stay alive, I’m trying to protect the escalation, this has already been explained to you many? times.

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**Author:** ![John\_Aurthur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_aurthur/32/456397_2.png) [@John\_Aurthur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Aurthur)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/118 "2025-09-04T21:26:59Z")

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> [@Malak\_Starfire](#):
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> It’s low effort

its not low effort, I get the sense you’re only saying that because it sounds low effort, not because you’ve actually done it before.

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**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/119 "2025-09-04T21:29:18Z")

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If you wish to protect something in EVE you generally need to be able to fight people for it.

Either bring a stronger ship, call corp members to help you out or have alts of your own to help you out.

Either way it’s a lot less realistic to both stay alive _and_ ‘protect your site’ from people who may want to steal it if you are not willing to fight for it.

Luckily there are multiple things you can still do without fighting:

- dscan immune recon
- combat-scan immune fit with sensor boosters
- warp off and hide any time hostiles enter your system

Or just continue doing the site and accept that if they enter you at least kept your ship intact and outplayed the hostiles by warping off in time even if it in rare cases means losing a site.

Personally I pick the last option, but there are many other choices you can make.

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**Author:** ![John\_Aurthur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/john_aurthur/32/456397_2.png) [@John\_Aurthur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/John_Aurthur)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-nerf-the-sisters-combat-probes/497005/120 "2025-09-04T21:31:20Z")

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“rare cases”, I think I’ve attempted ~10 of these escalations and lost 2. I guess your definition of rare is 20%. thats fine.

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