# Please Remove Security Status.. is not fun have to raise SS **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Tags:** high-sec, pvp\ **Created:** [December 7, 2023, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-remove-security-status-is-not-fun-have-to-raise-ss/431388 "2023-12-07T15:23:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Nascent3ch0](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nascent3ch0/32/374213_2.png) [@Nascent3ch0](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nascent3ch0)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-remove-security-status-is-not-fun-have-to-raise-ss/431388/21 "2023-12-08T12:52:49Z")
Only on the Eve forms could someone complain about the consequences of criminal actions and get called a carebear. You people are a joke lol. I hope they never do this. The last thing the gank cartels need is for it to be even easier. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Drew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_drew/32/395254_2.png) [@ISD\_Drew](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Drew)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-remove-security-status-is-not-fun-have-to-raise-ss/431388/22 "2023-12-08T19:26:46Z")
moved to [Player Features & Ideas - EVE Online Forums](https://forums.eveonline.com/c/technology-research/player-features-ideas/74) ---
**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-remove-security-status-is-not-fun-have-to-raise-ss/431388/23 "2023-12-08T20:03:05Z")
> [@Rtsu](#): > > In High sec players cannot PVP unless at war? lets change this to the follow : hs player have always to be worried to get ganked and if they are at war they cant dock anywhere ! ---
**Author:** ![Just\_my\_luck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/just_my_luck/32/407241_2.png) [@Just\_my\_luck](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Just_my_luck)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-remove-security-status-is-not-fun-have-to-raise-ss/431388/24 "2024-01-11T19:32:01Z")
Can the info below taken from Eve wiki be wrong?.. Outlaw Once your security status drops to -5.0 or below (technically -4.95) you become an \*outlaw It means anyone can attack you at any time without [CONCORD](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/CONCORD) interfering, even in [high security space](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/High-sec). It also means that assisting you would be a suspect offense, even for your own corporation members. That means anyone who needs to assist you would have to turn their safeties partially off to assist (yellow safeties), and in the process temporarily become a suspect for fifteen minutes. Travel restrictions Once your security status drops below certain thresholds, the empire faction police will start hunting you when you enter high security system. Any cloaking device fitted to your ship will also be disabled based on the same criteria, so you cannot cloak up to avoid the faction police. You will also not be able to dock while in a ship or tether at a player-owned structure. - Security status of -2.0 or below means you’ll be attacked in █ 1.0 systems. - Security status of -2.5 or below means you’ll be attacked in █ 0.9 systems. - Security status of -3.0 or below means you’ll be attacked in █ 0.8 systems. - Security status of -3.5 or below means you’ll be attacked in █ 0.7 systems. - Security status of -4.0 or below means you’ll be attacked in █ 0.6 systems. - Security status of -4.5 or below means you’ll be attacked in █ 0.5 systems. You’ll have a few seconds before they arrive and while the faction police is formidable, they are not as strong as CONCORD and can sometimes be handled and often avoided if you’re flying a reasonably agile ship. Players with negative ratings can fly through all systems in a capsule, commonly referred to as a _“pod”_, as faction police will not attack pods. But if you’re an outlaw\*, anyone can target and destroy your pod without repercussion … assuming they can catch you. You will be allowed to dock in high security station or player-owned structure while in your capsule and can d dock with a ship, but as soon as you d dock you will not be able to dock again while in the ship. In CONCORD-claimed systems the faction police will show up wearing CONCORD color, but they are not overpowered like the regular CONCORD police is. The CONCORD faction police are no stronger than any other faction police and can be dealt with just as you would any of the others. ---
**Author:** ![Rail\_J\_kar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rail_j_kar/32/374429_2.png) [@Rail\_J\_kar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rail_J_kar)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-remove-security-status-is-not-fun-have-to-raise-ss/431388/25 "2024-01-11T20:20:06Z")
> [@Rtsu](#): > > EVE online is also not as prominent and well designed as you seem to think. Its not a gold standard or anything. It’s the gold standard for single shard games. > [@Rtsu](#): > > In High sec players cannot PVP unless at war? In low sec players can PVP anywhere except near stations and gates unless at war. And then in null sec players can PVP anywhere no matter what > > Sounds good? No. > [@Rtsu](#): > > It would be better to allow people to raise security status passively. Pretty sure you can do this by killing rats. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-remove-security-status-is-not-fun-have-to-raise-ss/431388/26 "2024-01-11T20:21:28Z")
Man I hate these stupid request threads… ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-remove-security-status-is-not-fun-have-to-raise-ss/431388/27 "2024-01-11T20:53:44Z")
If you dont like security status issues, move to Null Sec where there arent any penalities. ---
**Author:** ![Arthur\_Aihaken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arthur_aihaken/32/504104_2.png) [@Arthur\_Aihaken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arthur_Aihaken)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-remove-security-status-is-not-fun-have-to-raise-ss/431388/28 "2024-01-11T21:04:17Z")
Or low-sec, wormhole space, etc. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-remove-security-status-is-not-fun-have-to-raise-ss/431388/29 "2024-04-10T21:04:41Z")
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