# Please stop the HS Triglavian Nonsense **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 5, 2021, 4:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631 "2021-01-05T04:48:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/61 "2021-01-05T19:36:29Z")
> [@Ridley\_Rohan](#): > > One could also say the Trigs are beyond the pale. > > And no I did not mean pail. Nor bucket. “There’s a wormhole in my bucket, dear Liza dear Liza…” ---
**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/62 "2021-01-05T20:30:37Z")
You cannot fire me if you did not hire me also, those 2 sentences are all that is needed + they can just google it tbh so I mean… really. ---
**Author:** ![Buoytender\_Bob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buoytender_bob/32/374377_2.png) [@Buoytender\_Bob](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buoytender_Bob)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/63 "2021-01-05T20:31:36Z")
Thanks to your post, I did a little research on the meaning and learned something new…which is always a good thing. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/64 "2021-01-05T21:27:57Z")
I have a list of changes and things that needs removing and readding to the game. CCP can contact me if they want this game to not die soon. :psyccp: ---
**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/65 "2021-01-05T21:38:44Z")
> [@Ridley\_Rohan](#): > > You’re fired. Pack your things and go home. 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2021, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/66 "2021-01-05T21:42:06Z")
You are welcome 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 6:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/67 "2021-01-07T06:10:12Z")
> [@Mkikaden\_Tiragen](#): > > there is plenty of information available that outlines where both the Trigs and their opposition will show up so players can plan accordingly. Can you provide any links to this info? Inquiring minds want to know. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/68 "2021-01-07T07:38:40Z")
> [@Souixie\_Wolfrun](#): > > I am American, and for some strange reason I find myself leading a corp full of Poles. I am Canadian, and for some reason I find myself leading a corp full of my alts. Way too much ego. I just want to slap them up side the head sometimes. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkikaden_tiragen/32/243913_2.png) [@Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mkikaden_Tiragen)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/69 "2021-01-07T14:34:40Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > > [@Mkikaden\_Tiragen](#): > > > > there is plenty of information available that outlines where both the Trigs and their opposition will show up so players can plan accordingly. > > Can you provide any links to this info? > > Inquiring minds want to know. I did link to this info in the form of the Pochven Entry Manual earlier in the thread. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 11:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/70 "2021-01-07T23:22:21Z")
Well, I definitely commend you on creating a very comprehensive guide for gaining access to Triglavian controlled systems. I may be wrong but it seems to be based on a percentage chance which requires extra effort to possibly find a w-hole leading to Triglavian space. If a connecting w-hole is found in the system, then Triglavian NPC’s could be present in that system. Granted that info is great if I wanted to find a way into Triglavian space. However it doesn’t provide a safeguard option to exclude encountering Triglavian NPC’s, especially for new players. As an old experienced Vet with max skills, in my opinion it doesn’t even come close to letting me know if a system does or doesn’t contain Triglavian NPC’s. Now I could be wrong but to use that guide as a safeguard option to completely evade Triglavian content, I would have to place all those systems listed in that guide on my avoidance list, just because they might possibly contain a Triglavian presence. That would cut off access to a very large section of the game which is not a good option at all. So yeah, it’s definitely a great guide for finding access to Triglavian controlled space but in my opinion it’s not a good source of info on how to evade Triglavian content. ---
**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 4:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/71 "2021-01-08T04:48:07Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > So yeah, it’s definitely a great guide for finding access to Triglavian controlled space but in my opinion it’s not a good source of info on how to evade Triglavian content I don’t think we’re supposed to ‘evade’ Trigs. I think CCP wants us to lose ships to them… Remember, must have that good ol’ destruction. I’d feed them corvettes all day long 'til they puked. ---
**Author:** ![Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkikaden_tiragen/32/243913_2.png) [@Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mkikaden_Tiragen)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 5:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/72 "2021-01-08T05:52:56Z")
To be clear: I did not write the manual. I also was specifically referring to the manual as a source of data on where to find Trigs _and their enemies_ for the purpose of adjusting standings as easily as possible - not so as to avoid the content entirely by blocking potential spawn systems. I have already made the recommendation to dip briefly negative with EDENCOM and then, using the manual to narrow the search area, go hunting a wormhole connection to dip in and out of Pochven for quick Rogue Drone/Drifter kills (since they camp the Pochven side of the wormhole class that can connect to K-Space) to end up white to both Trigs and EDENCOM. I didn’t say it was the easiest thing in the world. It’s simply the fastest solution for existing as a neutral party in Caldari space under current conditions. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 5:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/73 "2021-01-08T05:57:34Z")
Yeah, I already know CCP wants more destruction. In the past gaming review sites use to report it a lot which gave CCP lot’s of free advertisement. CCP is now trying everything to make that happen again. ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 6:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/74 "2021-01-08T06:19:26Z")
> [@Mkikaden\_Tiragen](#): > > To be clear: I did not write the manual. Ahhh, ok. My mistake… > [@Mkikaden\_Tiragen](#): > > I also was specifically referring to the manual as a source of data on where to find Trigs _and their enemies_ for the purpose of adjusting standings as easily as possible - not so as to avoid the content entirely by blocking potential spawn systems. From my understanding, it seemed the OP was looking for a way to avoid engaging in Triglavian content. > [@Mkikaden\_Tiragen](#): > > I have already made the recommendation to dip briefly negative with EDENCOM and then, using the manual to narrow the search area, go hunting a wormhole connection to dip in and out of Pochven for quick Rogue Drone/Drifter kills (since they camp the Pochven side of the wormhole class that can connect to K-Space) to end up white to both Trigs and EDENCOM. So in other words, do a lot of work and then eventually the player can ignore the Triglavian content. > [@Mkikaden\_Tiragen](#): > > I didn’t say it was the easiest thing in the world. It’s simply the fastest solution for existing as a neutral party in Caldari space under current conditions. I agree, definitely not easy, especially for new players. Main issue I see is it’s a lot of extra work to do just to avoid engaging in the Triglavian content. Bottom line is that CCP seriously needs to stop trying to script this game to be played a certain way. Forcing players to engage in content they don’t enjoy will only chase those players away from the game. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 6:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/75 "2021-01-08T06:21:59Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > Bottom line is that CCP seriously needs to stop trying to script this game to be played a certain way. Forcing players to engage in content they don’t enjoy will only chase those players away from the game. That’s a bottom line I can get behind. Though now that I think about it. It’s pretty much always been scripted. It’s just that now they are scripting on PA’s orders rather than the little bees. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkikaden_tiragen/32/243913_2.png) [@Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mkikaden_Tiragen)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 6:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/76 "2021-01-08T06:40:45Z")
> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#): > > From my understanding, it seemed the OP was looking for a way to avoid engaging in Triglavian content. Absolutely. Unfortunately, that isn’t possible while living in Caldari space, so I was linking to resources and making suggestions to try and expedite getting to the state of ‘I can ignore this _going forward_’. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/77 "2021-01-08T08:24:58Z")
> [@Mkikaden\_Tiragen](#): > > I can ignore this _going forward_ best recomendation for this content. # Ya hear that CCP? :psyccp: ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/78 "2021-01-08T09:56:53Z")
I dont understand. Where are they? Ive been doing delivery runs between Domian, Devoid and Lonetrek/Forge for the last few days and I havent seen one. I see more Edencom Towers than I do trigs these days ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_LoneStarGTx76](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_lonestargtx76/32/250333_2.png) [@Mr\_LoneStarGTx76](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_LoneStarGTx76)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/79 "2021-01-08T14:26:24Z")
I hop that high-sec is going to be safe for new players. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2021, 3:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/80 "2021-01-09T03:55:59Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > No. Trigs and EDENCOM should stop spawning from the wormholes. Lets fix what is broken. And why shouldn’t they spawn there? The WH literally leads in to their space, obviously a tunnel to a place allows people from that place to enter your area The mechanic actually makes perfect sense compared to the random spawning of NPC’s currently lol [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631.md?page=5)