# Please stop the HS Triglavian Nonsense

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [January 5, 2021, 4:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631 "2021-01-05T04:48:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Khlaa\_Sor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khlaa_sor/32/434528_2.png) [@Khlaa\_Sor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Khlaa_Sor)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/120 "2021-01-11T18:29:04Z")

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> [@Souixie\_Wolfrun](#):
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> they are basically mining until the FoB or Trig rats show up and then they are done.

Can they not warp off? (Before the rats lock and scram them)

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**Author:** ![Ashterothi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ashterothi/32/459299_2.png) [@Ashterothi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ashterothi)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/121 "2021-01-11T20:42:37Z")

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The “Grind” to make sure Triglavians do not attack you is one site. It isn’t that big of a deal…

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**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/122 "2021-01-12T12:55:08Z")

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Yup, assuming you’re neutral its a single NPC kill to become positive, and using [http://edencom.space/pochven\_systems.php](http://edencom.space/pochven_systems.php) you should be able to find a nice system to enter 🙂

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**Author:** ![Pedro\_Yurgin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pedro_yurgin/32/361653_2.png) [@Pedro\_Yurgin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pedro_Yurgin)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/123 "2021-01-12T22:34:23Z")

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> [@Souixie\_Wolfrun](#):
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> This is not very fun and they don’t have the SP to handle them.

This is a real problem. That and Drifter BS shouldn’t be allowed. Atleast the Shansha rats change the sky and give you a heads up.

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**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 1:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/124 "2021-01-13T01:30:51Z")

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> [@Pedro\_Yurgin](#):
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> Atleast the Shansha rats change the sky and give you a heads up.

Because incursions are much larger in scope, trig WH spawns are much smaller in nature and they don’t come with system wide debuffs, hence they don’t get warnings, also remember a trig invasion will last at most 16 hours in any given system, unless you’re unlucky and are in that lovely system that has 3 possible pochven connections and they happen to spawn one after the other 😛

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**Author:** ![Miranda\_Farron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/miranda_farron/32/250852_2.png) [@Miranda\_Farron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Miranda_Farron)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/125 "2021-01-13T10:59:04Z")

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I’ve never been attacked by a Trig since they arrived in the game.

I’ve sat tethered safely on a Station watching other people scream about being attacked by Trigs, but I have eyes and a brain, so I just chuckle from my safe spot and wonder to myself what’s wrong with these people.

Why do you feel entitled to safety in EVE Online of all places?

I don’t understand where this mentality comes from, and it comes up over and over, it’s not just you.

EVE is supposed to be the pew pew spaceship game version of Dark Souls, right?

You happily fly along in your cute little spaceship thinking ‘well ain’t this nice’ and then something smacks you into the floor and says ‘HA!’ and everyone says ‘Harden the F up’ when you cry about it.

That was always the reputation EVE had in my mind at least.

Why are people trying to play EVE with a Hello Kitty Online mentality?

> [@Souixie\_Wolfrun](#):
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> I shouldn’t have to fix difficult stuff

Why shouldn’t you?

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/126 "2021-01-13T13:18:37Z")

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If you actually logged in and played the game then you’d know why players are complaining about Trigs.

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**Author:** ![Miranda\_Farron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/miranda_farron/32/250852_2.png) [@Miranda\_Farron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Miranda_Farron)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/127 "2021-01-13T13:29:59Z")

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> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> If you actually logged in and played the game then you’d know why players are complaining about Trigs.

What a stupid comment.

Who says I don’t log in and play the game?

Here’s me, logged in, playing the game, watching why players are complaining about Trigs …

 ![2020.12.02.20.11.49](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/3/a3f1d3ca465d3ca8400320a46cbc24f52edd1c83.jpeg)

What’s your reason?

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/128 "2021-01-13T13:34:18Z")

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> [@Miranda\_Farron](#):
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> Who says I don’t log in and play the game?

lol, you must be dense.

Anyway, you’ll get a much better response if you take your BS Troll posting back to Reddit…

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**Author:** ![Miranda\_Farron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/miranda_farron/32/250852_2.png) [@Miranda\_Farron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Miranda_Farron)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/129 "2021-01-13T13:38:19Z")

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> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> lol, you must be dense.

Because I can refute your moronic comments? Yes, that makes me the dense one.

> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> Anyway, you’ll get a much better response if you take your BS Troll posting back to Reddit

So funny, so edgy, so sharp, so on meme, so not troll.

Do you think instead of this inane drivel you could perhaps try to come up with a single intelligent sentence?

Something that actually adds to the thread?

Because your ‘lol you don’t even play’ and ‘lol go back to Reddit’ comments are the only troll comments in this conversation. You sound like a 12 year old.

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**Author:** ![Pith\_Hurdaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pith_hurdaa/32/198748_2.png) [@Pith\_Hurdaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Pith_Hurdaa)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/130 "2021-01-13T13:49:24Z")

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My hi-sec alt could use a 0.01 standing gain, so to not be shot by wandering triglavians. I´m trying to find the way bu I´m not getting much apart from “Go pochven, kill drones”

I don´t want to waste time in scanning holes, so I´d enter via filament. What´s the cheapest that will do the job for a single character?

It is mainly a market alt so it has FEW combat skills. It can fly caldary ships with meta4 weapons and T2 tank, so what would be a cheap ship that would do the work of killing one NPC? Corax is enough? Caracal?

And lastly, once in pochven in my disposable ship, wich rat should I be looking for, and were? In gates, cosmic anomalies, scannable combat sites?

Much Appreciated.

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/131 "2021-01-13T13:52:47Z")

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There’s nothing you can refute, especially since your posted reply was a troll rant intended to demean and infuriate others. And now you’re digging yourself into a deeper hole.

> [@Miranda\_Farron](#):
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> So funny, so edgy, so sharp, so on meme, so not troll.
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> Do you think instead of this inane drivel you could perhaps try to come up with a single intelligent sentence?

How about you practice what you preach instead of posting swill like this:

> [@Miranda\_Farron](#):
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> I have eyes and a brain, so I just chuckle from my safe spot and wonder to myself what’s wrong with these people.

> [@Miranda\_Farron](#):
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> You happily fly along in your cute little spaceship thinking ‘well ain’t this nice’ and then something smacks you into the floor and says ‘HA!’ and everyone says ‘Harden the F up’ when you cry about it.

> [@Miranda\_Farron](#):
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> Why are people trying to play EVE with a Hello Kitty Online mentality?

> [@Miranda\_Farron](#):
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> You sound like a 12 year old.

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/132 "2021-01-13T13:55:54Z")

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You’re in the wrong thread, this is the one you’re looking for…

> [@How to Get Dual Standings with Edencom and the Triglavians](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/how-to-get-dual-standings-with-edencom-and-the-triglavians/289263):
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> Getting positive standing with Triglavians and Edencom will allow you to travel unmolested through Edencom systems, triglavian minor victory systems, and any systems that currently have a trig wormhole present. Fortunately, any positive standings appear to work. So, it’s really easy if you’re starting from zero. Those that have tanked their standings will need to do some grinding. Thus, they might want to join one of [Edencom Defense Initiative](http://edencom.space/join.php)’s dual standings fleet. Join their discord to le…

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/133 "2021-01-13T13:56:23Z")

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> [@Pith\_Hurdaa](#):
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> I don´t want to waste time in scanning holes, so I´d enter via filament. What´s the cheapest that will do the job for a single character?

the cheapest pochven filament on the market.

> [@Pith\_Hurdaa](#):
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> It is mainly a market alt so it has FEW combat skills. It can fly caldary ships with meta4 weapons and T2 tank, so what would be a cheap ship that would do the work of killing one NPC? Corax is enough? Caracal?

I did it with a cormorant. pretty difficult though.

> [@Pith\_Hurdaa](#):
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> And lastly, once in pochven in my disposable ship, wich rat should I be looking for, and were? In gates, cosmic anomalies, scannable combat sites?

You use dscan. show info on the rat, check if it is a drone, dscan it down, warp to it.

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/135 "2021-01-13T14:10:51Z")

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lol, you are definitely mistaken… about everything.

Flagging your replies is the best response to you and your inane comments.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/136 "2021-01-13T16:21:14Z")

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> [@Cypherous](#):
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> WH spawns are much smaller in nature and they don’t come with system wide debuffs, hence they don’t get warnings

The sky thing would change very little if not anything. People jumping into system into ganking trigs would not get anything from that. Only people who live in system and are actively missioning or mining would get some warning that they have to watch out more. But those peeps would probably already know that they are living in place that can be raided anytime, some time has passed.

I am not opposing the sky concept, but it would not change much really.

Warp stabs are a blessing when traveling. Or covert ops cloak.

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**Author:** ![Eynsane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eynsane/32/247078_2.png) [@Eynsane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eynsane)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/137 "2021-01-13T17:11:35Z")

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Ten minutes ago I enter with other characterin [https://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/Nourvukaiken](https://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/Nourvukaiken) , seeking NPC for the skilling spree. I receive an alert of “edencom system” i think, good no trig ■■■■ here.

I was in a caracal, not got blown, but near. Scarmmed by a raznaborg anchoring, i make the error to point himn ad fire, burning back to the gate. I live, destroyed at 80/85% in a t1 caracal who can fly at 1500m per second, but WTF ? Edencom systems can be invaded for trigs and in a system near of a noob system ?

This is not good game design, lore is bad , and i dont want to fgo to caldari zone now with that char because i fire the scarmmer, not killed it.

Was in an 6m trader alt doing the noobie missions for reputation, in a caracal capable of 1500 m per sec…

Something is very wrong here.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/138 "2021-01-13T17:57:35Z")

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You go to Edencom Anomolies if you want to fight trigs and vice versa.

Sounds like you warped to a site you didnt know what it was.

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**Author:** ![Eynsane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eynsane/32/247078_2.png) [@Eynsane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eynsane)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/139 "2021-01-13T18:03:08Z")

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No, i simple jump to a system with EDENCOM notice, only jumpo the gate,

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**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/140 "2021-01-13T18:20:48Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> Sounds like you warped to a site you didnt know what it was.

There are trigs on specific system gate, that can murder you, without a need to be edencom or triglavian or whatever.  
The only need is to be within 3 jumps from a former KS system that’s been moved to pochven.

No warning. Nothing you can do since they camp the gate, web and scram you (if you are lucky, in that order).

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