# Please stop the HS Triglavian Nonsense **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 5, 2021, 4:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631 "2021-01-05T04:48:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Miranda\_Farron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/miranda_farron/32/250852_2.png) [@Miranda\_Farron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Miranda_Farron)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/181 "2021-01-20T10:54:46Z")
> [@Pertti\_Perusheppu](#): > > I’d say that the extent of trigs ganking people in hisec is greatly exaggerated at the moment. I have been highly careless with my hauling alt in hisec, and I haven’t got ganked by trigs yet. Exactly. I live in High Sec and have never so much as been target locked by a Trig. We have to remember that people don’t like to lose their ships in EVE and a certain type of person will always _ **always** _ demand that whatever killed them and made their precious ship explode be removed from the game, be it gankers or Trigs or whatever. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/182 "2021-01-20T13:47:13Z")
> [@Miranda\_Farron](#): > > I live in High Sec and have never so much as been target locked by a Trig. so what ? I lost several ships in HS. 3 times by trigs that become red after being white. I met roaming red fleets like tens of times. In some part of space they can’t spawn (metropolis, derelik IIRC) Just today there was 20 kills. > **[Triglavian Entities | Group](https://zkillboard.com/group/4028/kills/highsec/)** > > Triglavian Entities: 290,066 ships destroyed and 0 ships lost. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/183 "2021-01-20T17:00:18Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > 3 times by trigs that become red after being white. Its like they were never supposed to be white or something. Must have been hack job with these agression mechanics. To cheer you up I can say they work pretty well being red consistently, like when you have very negative standings with them. Never seen them being white. ---
**Author:** ![Miranda\_Farron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/miranda_farron/32/250852_2.png) [@Miranda\_Farron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Miranda_Farron)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/184 "2021-01-20T17:16:59Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > I lost several ships in HS. 3 times by trigs that become red after being white. > I met roaming red fleets like tens of times. So what? ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/185 "2021-01-20T17:21:17Z")
> [@Miranda\_Farron](#): > > So what? so you are wrong when you claim they are exaggerated. ---
**Author:** ![Miranda\_Farron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/miranda_farron/32/250852_2.png) [@Miranda\_Farron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Miranda_Farron)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/186 "2021-01-20T17:29:20Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > so you are wrong when you claim they are exaggerated. Because you say otherwise and present your own highly subjective personal experience? Nah. Don’t think so. Why is your experience more valid than mine? And the other guy … and all those other people who have never lost a ship to the Trigs? I mean, it’s mostly noobs in Rookie chat that fly straight into them and then ask why they died afterwards, but at least their accounts are only 3 days old. What’s your excuse? ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/187 "2021-01-20T17:32:46Z")
> [@Miranda\_Farron](#): > > Why is your experience more valid than mine? Because you affirm something does not exist without a proof, and I tell you it exists with experience, which is enough to debunk your affirmation. Your lack of experience is totally valid as long as it’s not a generalization. As I wrote it’s totally possible to never encouter them depending on where you play. But your personal experience does not allow you to make a generalization. ---
**Author:** ![Miranda\_Farron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/miranda_farron/32/250852_2.png) [@Miranda\_Farron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Miranda_Farron)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/188 "2021-01-20T17:43:01Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > I tell you it exists with experience, which is enough to debunk your affirmation No. No one claimed the Trigs don’t exist or that no one has lost any ships to the Trigs. That is all you have told me with experience, and we already knew this. You’re not even on-topic. To recap, you replied to my reply to this: > [@Pertti\_Perusheppu](#): > > I’d say that the extent of trigs ganking people in hisec is greatly exaggerated at the moment. I have been highly careless with my hauling alt in hisec, and I haven’t got ganked by trigs yet. The topic therefore is whether or not the extent of Trigs ganking people in High Sec is exaggerated at the moment. > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > But your personal experience does not allow you to make a generalization. Neither does yours. You can’t say the Trig threat is not greatly exaggerated (topic) based on your personal experience. It either is greatly exaggerated or it isn’t, one of us is correct, but neither of us can prove otherwise with our personal experience alone. Still, for me, and for the other guy, and I’m sure for hundreds of others who have suffered no loss at their hands, it certainly feels greatly exaggerated. Essentially it _is_ greatly exaggerated in the EVE that _we_ play, because it has made no difference to us, which is something you can’t actually debunk. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/189 "2021-01-20T17:56:34Z")
> [@Miranda\_Farron](#): > > It either is greatly exaggerated or it isn’t, one of us is correct, but neither of us can prove otherwise with our personal experience alone. AND I provided the zkill for the trigs. From which you have a non personal experience. ---
**Author:** ![Miranda\_Farron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/miranda_farron/32/250852_2.png) [@Miranda\_Farron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Miranda_Farron)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/190 "2021-01-20T18:01:41Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > AND I provided the zkill for the trigs. Means nothing. Utterly pointless statistic in isolation, considering the topic at hand. As I said, we already know they kill people. That’s not the topic. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/208 "2021-01-21T15:09:17Z")
Removed some off topic posts. ---
**Author:** ![Jackson\_Quantrell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jackson_quantrell/32/286518_2.png) [@Jackson\_Quantrell](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jackson_Quantrell)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/209 "2021-01-23T20:12:59Z")
Another “EVE is too hard for someone problem”. Deal with it, figure it out like I did or quit. I’ll help them learn the game but it’s not up to me to waste my gaming time teaching people English. Instead come here and make demands that CCP change something else again to make things easier… ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/210 "2021-01-23T21:05:57Z")
> [@Jackson\_Quantrell](#): > > I’ll help them learn the game For majority it will be too late. You will not even have to share some helpful link with majority. These people will be gone and it will save you a lot of headache and they will save money on something more enjoyable. Win, win. ---
**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2021, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/211 "2021-01-24T11:08:32Z")
> [@Jackson\_Quantrell](#): > > it’s not up to me to waste my gaming time teaching people English Glad you figured that out. This game doesn’t need teachers, it needs devs who understand what a SANDBOX actually is and it needs to work first, it needs technicians to insure proper connectivity so it doesn’t freeze, stutter every 5 seconds and cut out of connection. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2021, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/212 "2021-01-24T23:27:03Z")
> [@Red-Sonja](#): > > it needs technicians to insure proper connectivity so it doesn’t freeze, stutter every 5 seconds and cut out of connection. Unless they own the entire internet that won’t even be within their control, your traffic can cross multiple networks to reach its destination, i’m not sure how you think the internet works but the best coders in the world can’t fix internet connectivity issues or round trip times ---
**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/213 "2021-01-25T08:12:27Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > i’m not sure how you think the internet works but the best coders in the world can’t fix internet connectivity issues or round trip times I’ll tell you how I think the Internet “works”. I installed CAT5 and CAT7, FiberOptics and Coaxial cables, phone and alarm systems and Independent Data Frames and tested them in businesses, schools, hospitals and for the government starting back in 1996. I’m pretty sure I have a good idea how the Internet - and Intranets - work. > [@Cypherous](#): > > but the best coders in the world can’t fix internet connectivity issues or round trip times Poppicock. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/214 "2021-01-25T08:47:52Z")
> [@Red-Sonja](#): > > I’m pretty sure I have a good idea how the Internet - and Intranets - work. And since you claim that CCP should hire technicians to prevent worldwide routing issues, you just proved you don’t know anything about how it actually works. ---
**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/216 "2021-01-25T09:18:00Z")
> [@Red-Sonja](#): > > I can’t block Blocking can be done from your own profile. ---
**Author:** ![Red-Sonja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/red-sonja/32/254178_2.png) [@Red-Sonja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Red-Sonja)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/217 "2021-01-25T09:19:02Z")
That’s nice to know. I’ll check it out, thanks o7 Done. Thanks for the tip. Trolls are to be ignored. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631/218 "2021-01-25T10:00:59Z")
> [@Red-Sonja](#): > > Unlike you, I don’t need to prove anything. Indeed, you just come here to affirm BS. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631.md?page=8) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/please-stop-the-hs-triglavian-nonsense/288631.md?page=10)