# PLEX GER vs RU 43% more expensive. why? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 1, 2020, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-ger-vs-ru-43-more-expensive-why/229207 "2020-04-01T14:44:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-ger-vs-ru-43-more-expensive-why/229207/117 "2020-05-26T14:40:14Z")
I played already game with such model in 2006, AoC. I played it in polish language, with russian and polish players, for half a sub cost as in other servers. The options for payment wasnt so good as with Lotro in my opinion, but overal better when it comes to sub cost in comparison with EVE. Actually that opinion is also covered by my gaming expenses. Thats why I left the most money in Lotro, next was AoC, the smallest amount in EVE. 🤷‍♀️ As I see it, overall CCP payment and server options are underdeveloped, even when they make an exception for China, Btw the GNI is there comparable with Russia… 🤷‍♀️ Russia is still a lot of people and developed community is there. 🤷‍♀️ May be one of the reasons why EVE stays niche game anyway, because they dont put pressure on matter of payments and server options. Alpha doesnt cut the mustard. The game should be played with Omega. Preferentially with sub. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-ger-vs-ru-43-more-expensive-why/229207/118 "2020-05-26T15:19:16Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > I miss the days when Russians were much more stoic… The people are the same as everywhere, wealthy or not. Poor and wealthy people think the same things economically. Humans are economically thinking everywhere similarly at similar level of intelligence but other factors are playing role also. For me maximizing gains is possible only by elasticity in payment options and elasticity in pricing, by minimizing the role of those other factors. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-ger-vs-ru-43-more-expensive-why/229207/119 "2020-05-26T15:50:15Z")
> [@Barck](#): > > this forum was created for dialogue. feedback and dialogue between players and CCP developers No it wasnt ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-ger-vs-ru-43-more-expensive-why/229207/120 "2020-05-26T15:51:27Z")
Yeah they shot those ones in a cellar and had an awesome Party from October till… 1989? Then they turned into Murika II ---
**Author:** ![Barck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/barck/32/290950_2.png) [@Barck](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Barck)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-ger-vs-ru-43-more-expensive-why/229207/121 "2020-05-26T18:04:11Z")
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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-ger-vs-ru-43-more-expensive-why/229207/122 "2020-05-26T18:10:58Z")
Lol whatever you say man, whatever you say. ---
**Author:** ![e1a\_shmela](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/e1a_shmela/32/288528_2.png) [@e1a\_shmela](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/e1a_shmela)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 6:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-ger-vs-ru-43-more-expensive-why/229207/123 "2020-05-26T18:13:16Z")
why do you unsubscribe in all topics not related to you in any way? you troll? we heard your opinion - this is capitalism and no one will answer us. but we will write anyway, until either we answer or until we understand that it is useless. I’m afraid of such an interest. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-ger-vs-ru-43-more-expensive-why/229207/124 "2020-05-26T18:15:55Z")
So why do you keep replying to me? Ive made my point, you’ve made yours, I agree with yours in principle but not execution, and that makes me a troll does it? No wonder they dont take the forums seriously. Anyone with an opinion that differs is a troll, gotcha. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-ger-vs-ru-43-more-expensive-why/229207/125 "2020-05-26T19:21:57Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > they dont take the forums seriously They will gladly take the money tho. Their pricing policy is not what I would describe as inclusive. So they must already earn enough and dont need more… ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 7:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-ger-vs-ru-43-more-expensive-why/229207/126 "2020-05-27T07:23:09Z")
Or that there are more rich people willing to pay than poor who cant/wont. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-ger-vs-ru-43-more-expensive-why/229207/127 "2020-05-27T08:37:35Z")
Depends on who you compare people with. Rich or poor is relative. The problem is elsewhere. Medium wage varies from country to country. But the sub cost is not reflecting it. Thats the point. Its less probable you will get rich or poor to pay for a game than person with middle class wage, if you consider each country separately. How the wage levels look in europe for example: ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/c/0c46ea3df47fd792bbb2522be796796f22835805.jpeg) How to set the price for each of these countries, reflecting the set wealth levels, if not without some compromises or changing how sub pricing works? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-ger-vs-ru-43-more-expensive-why/229207/128 "2020-05-27T08:46:20Z")
I would imagine they would formost consider their market data, market research etc. rather than wage distribution. If the hourly rate in Timbuktu is £1 an hour, but only one person has a computer, then its not going to make sense to do a £1 offer there. Democratising access is not what marketting does. It works out the best route to higher income. And whatever data it is they are basing it on, we presumably have no access to. There’s an awful lot of “should be this way” here, but no recognition of how it IS. And just because I point this out, it doesnt mean it feel it _should_ be this way either, but you know, Im not in favour of capitalism. Its just funny when people get bitten, because they never care when they are the ones doing well by it, like us in the UK, as has been pointed out. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-ger-vs-ru-43-more-expensive-why/229207/129 "2020-05-27T08:49:25Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Democratising access is not what marketting does. Funny, as democratising access worked in my case. I think we have too subjective views on this matter. Mine is more practical than theoretical knowledge on this matter, but I wonder how it would really look in statistics on larger level. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-ger-vs-ru-43-more-expensive-why/229207/130 "2020-05-27T08:54:24Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > Funny, as democratising access worked in my case. In what way do you feel they democratised your access? If they happened to make it cheaper in your region, I can assure you it wasnt so more people could access their great game. Its so as more money per hr could be earned at the least cost. The sooner we lose the idea that there is any kind of altruism in business, the better off we will all be ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 8:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-ger-vs-ru-43-more-expensive-why/229207/131 "2020-05-27T08:59:00Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > In what way do you feel they democratised your access? Value/cost optimisation really. Efect was that I did spent more on subs for games that lookes like they are worth the time/money put into them. > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > The sooner we lose the idea that there is any kind of altruism in business, the better off we will all be That is bad approach to customer. More its like lack of empathy. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-ger-vs-ru-43-more-expensive-why/229207/132 "2020-05-27T09:01:48Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > The sooner we lose the idea that there is any kind of altruism in business, the better off we will all be If a society is going to embrace capitalism then your great line needs to be taught as early as possible. Some people/countries seem to have a Stockholm Syndrome-like affliction when it comes to the negative effect of capitalism. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-ger-vs-ru-43-more-expensive-why/229207/133 "2020-05-27T09:02:56Z")
> **Empathy** - **altruism** is a form of **altruism** based on feelings for others. The social exchange theory states that **altruism** does not exist unless benefits to the helper outweigh the costs. 🤑 ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-ger-vs-ru-43-more-expensive-why/229207/134 "2020-05-27T09:03:40Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > More its like lack of empathy. It has neither. It is business. If you dont get that your prices may have gone down because it actually made them more money IN YOUR PARTICULAR CASE than raising them, and it was not about how people feel or what the average wage is, then I think you have a much brighter optimistic view of how a business runs than I do. I just have found that no business will do anything other than operate to maximise profits. Its why they exist. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-ger-vs-ru-43-more-expensive-why/229207/135 "2020-05-27T09:05:17Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > I just have found that no business will do anything I would edit that to “No publicly traded business…” ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-ger-vs-ru-43-more-expensive-why/229207/136 "2020-05-27T09:05:54Z")
Actually, I was thinking of ammending it to “No business and precious few charities” [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-ger-vs-ru-43-more-expensive-why/229207.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-ger-vs-ru-43-more-expensive-why/229207.md?page=7)