# PLEX holders šŸ’ŽšŸ–‘ **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 22, 2021, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-holders/301707 "2021-03-22T10:58:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-holders/301707/21 "2021-03-22T16:20:01Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > it is an in-game item with multiple uses Pilot Licence EXtension Maybe they should change the name. Mr Epeen šŸ•¶ ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-holders/301707/22 "2021-03-22T16:29:42Z")
Only in a case where the parent, PA, goes bankrupt at the same time, otherwise they are liable. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-holders/301707/23 "2021-03-22T16:30:03Z")
> [@0Lona\_0ltor](#): > > **500** PLEX is worrh 1 month Eve online subscription FTFY just for the sake of avoiding any confusion ---
**Author:** ![0Lona\_0ltor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/0lona_0ltor/32/336276_2.png) [@0Lona\_0ltor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/0Lona_0ltor)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-holders/301707/24 "2021-03-22T16:38:28Z")
Hahahha that is in no way how the wind up of a company works in any country. If it was Chriss Roberts would be the wealthiest game developer ever šŸ™‚ Hey guys I wound the ltd.C up, go away. Sailing to Bahamas now cya. ---
**Author:** ![0Lona\_0ltor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/0lona_0ltor/32/336276_2.png) [@0Lona\_0ltor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/0Lona_0ltor)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-holders/301707/25 "2021-03-22T16:39:23Z")
Yeah but I call a plex, 500 legacy from before the share split. ---
**Author:** ![0Lona\_0ltor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/0lona_0ltor/32/336276_2.png) [@0Lona\_0ltor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/0Lona_0ltor)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-holders/301707/26 "2021-03-22T16:40:35Z")
But also lets not be negative, 50 more years of eve at least or I want my money back! Plex to the moon! ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-holders/301707/27 "2021-03-22T17:14:42Z")
I should sell all my chars, plex one account for 100 years or so and wait for the check šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-holders/301707/28 "2021-03-22T17:21:20Z")
> [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#): > > Only in a case where the parent, PA, goes bankrupt at the same time, otherwise they are liable. Or PA sells CCP to CCP Holding Company, Inc. for purposes of the bankruptcy. If you think youā€™re going to get paid in cash for a 50 year omega account youā€™re simply delusional. ---
**Author:** ![0Lona\_0ltor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/0lona_0ltor/32/336276_2.png) [@0Lona\_0ltor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/0Lona_0ltor)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-holders/301707/29 "2021-03-22T17:25:17Z")
Donā€™t spend the plex just hold for now. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 5:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-holders/301707/30 "2021-03-22T17:25:37Z")
lol, in the real worldā€¦ No CEO, who is an employee, is going to risk jail or his career to scam debtors in a bankruptcy to save people he doesnā€™t even know a few bucks. Especially for a company like CCP that isnā€™t going to have a huge amount of debt. ---
**Author:** ![0Lona\_0ltor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/0lona_0ltor/32/336276_2.png) [@0Lona\_0ltor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/0Lona_0ltor)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-holders/301707/31 "2021-03-22T17:28:41Z")
Are you saying CCP will not honour commitments to its lenders or honour outstanding commitments to subscribers? ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-holders/301707/32 "2021-03-22T17:29:55Z")
> [@0Lona\_0ltor](#): > > Are you saying CCP will not honour commitments to its lenders or honour outstanding commitments to subscribers Iā€™m saying that when CCP shuts down you are not getting paid. Thatā€™s how bankruptcy works, random people who bought something from the company are the last to get paid and if the company is out of money they get nothing. And, as has been pointed out, the EULA clearly states that you will not be paid for unused subscription time when EVE shuts down. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-holders/301707/33 "2021-03-22T17:30:09Z")
Not too mention that when judges divide up the remaining assets the customers and the employees get paid first. Then vendors like the electric and water, phone etc. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-holders/301707/34 "2021-03-22T17:31:20Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > Thatā€™s how bankruptcy works, random people who bought something from the company are the last to get paid and if the company is out of money they get nothing That is not at all how it works, they process refunds and try to clear the companies books first. ---
**Author:** ![Rekindle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rekindle/32/382332_2.png) [@Rekindle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rekindle)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-holders/301707/35 "2021-03-22T17:32:21Z")
Please send me a year of plex - in game ā€œRekindleā€ - letā€™s test it. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-holders/301707/36 "2021-03-22T17:32:54Z")
> [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#): > > That is not at all how it works, they process refunds and try to clear the companies books first And because the EULA states that unused subscription time will not be paid out there is no refund to process and no books to clear. You would have to sue CCP (or whatever holding company is resolving the shutdown) for the money, and by that time there wonā€™t be any money left to claim even if you win in court. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-holders/301707/37 "2021-03-22T17:36:05Z")
Judges resolve bankruptcy, not holding companies. What country do you live in šŸ¤£ Anyway, you have reached your 3 responses and may have the last word, even if you are wrong šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-holders/301707/38 "2021-03-22T17:39:16Z")
> [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#): > > Judges resolve bankruptcy, not holding companies. And apparently you donā€™t understand the concept of transferring assets to a holding company. The judge doesnā€™t get to go after previous owners of EVE once the game has been sold. Itā€™s just like how every single movie ever made has lost money because the studios make a new holding company for each movie and ensure that all the money is manipulated such that profit goes to the studio and losses go to the holding company. If EVE is to be shut down with any meaningful creditors remaining the bankruptcy judge will be overseeing the bankruptcy of EVE Holding Company Inc, a company with no assets other than a game which will soon no longer exist. > Anyway, you have reached your 3 responses and may have the last word, even if you are wrong Thatā€™s certainly a convenient excuse for ignoring the point about the EULA explicitly stating that no refunds will be given for unused subscription time when EVE is shut down. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-holders/301707/39 "2021-03-22T18:06:29Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > EULA states that unused subscription time will not be paid out If we are talking about timeā€¦ I have seen people selling auctions in internet, and they were technically selling their time and gaming skills to transfer then some PLEX bought in game by means of ISK. Sort of service. Literally being paid for playing. ---
**Author:** ![0Lona\_0ltor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/0lona_0ltor/32/336276_2.png) [@0Lona\_0ltor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/0Lona_0ltor)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-holders/301707/40 "2021-03-22T18:35:28Z")
Look I donā€™t want negativity spoken about my company, I see Eve lasting for 50 years more & Iā€™m all paid up in my subscription in that regard. If CCP are unwilling to fulfil they should refund me, $ or Ā£ is fine, & if CCP has concerns about its ability to fufill subscriptions it should inform an adminstrator or reciever. But we all know this game has longterm plans & its book makers have propperly accounted for plex liability šŸ™‚ 50 more years of co-ownership at least! [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-holders/301707.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/plex-holders/301707.md?page=3)