# Pochven filaments - easy way to extract your exploration loot **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 2, 2020, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pochven-filaments-easy-way-to-extract-your-exploration-loot/277601 "2020-11-02T16:58:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Lis\_Torin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lis_torin/32/204820_2.png) [@Lis\_Torin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lis_Torin)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pochven-filaments-easy-way-to-extract-your-exploration-loot/277601/1 "2020-11-02T16:58:30Z")
With new filaments, you can jump from any (null) system to pochven and use another filament from pochven to get to hisec. I don’t really mind, since it saves my time from scanning wh chain to get back home. But I think this was overlooked by CCP and gives way to easy option to evacuate from null. Especially with incoming stealing rating isk. Anyway, if someone didn’t thought about this, here is your tip of the day 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pochven-filaments-easy-way-to-extract-your-exploration-loot/277601/2 "2020-11-02T17:10:38Z")
That’s not an oversight. That’s on purpose. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pochven-filaments-easy-way-to-extract-your-exploration-loot/277601/3 "2020-11-02T17:14:27Z")
CCP wanted the inbound Pochven filaments to be extremely rare. But then they discovered that nobody was going to Pochven . . . So now the filaments are common. Why wander through null or use a wormhole? Use the magic teleportation instead. The best part is that half the Trig minor victories are right around Jita, so they are very convenient. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pochven-filaments-easy-way-to-extract-your-exploration-loot/277601/4 "2020-11-02T17:24:25Z")
If this becomes a reliable way to travel around and thus encourages more people to fly around in space, it’s a positive in my book. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pochven-filaments-easy-way-to-extract-your-exploration-loot/277601/5 "2020-11-02T17:31:05Z")
i like the needlejack ones it makes day trips to null a pleasure edit: except wen they kill my phantasm stop killing my phantasm rude ☹ just die ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pochven-filaments-easy-way-to-extract-your-exploration-loot/277601/6 "2020-11-02T17:32:16Z")
Don’t forget to bring a key for their bank vault. ---
**Author:** ![Lis\_Torin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lis_torin/32/204820_2.png) [@Lis\_Torin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lis_Torin)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pochven-filaments-easy-way-to-extract-your-exploration-loot/277601/7 "2020-11-02T17:32:46Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > If this becomes a reliable way to travel around and thus encourages more people to fly around in space, it’s a positive in my book. Problem is that they are abused in many ways. see main post, or when filament is used to simply get out of fight you don’t want to take. Ideal of filaments is not bad. Implementation is bad. They favor one side too much and has zero risks and downsides when using. You cloak up and wait for timer to end or jump between safe spots. It’s almost impossible for defending fleet to catch you and that is my problem with filaments. There should be more downsides and restrictions. Making people trying to jump more vulnerable. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pochven-filaments-easy-way-to-extract-your-exploration-loot/277601/8 "2020-11-02T17:33:14Z")
> [@Lis\_Torin](#): > > Problem is that they are abused in many ways It’s not abuse, but sure, whatever. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pochven-filaments-easy-way-to-extract-your-exploration-loot/277601/9 "2020-11-02T17:34:57Z")
well if you pew pew you cant use another for 10 min if you don’t you can search a better area to roam i think its fair i got involved in exciting chases edit: dont know nothing about > [@Lis\_Torin](#): > > pochven im talking about needlejack only ---
**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pochven-filaments-easy-way-to-extract-your-exploration-loot/277601/10 "2020-11-03T17:22:53Z")
Pretty sure, this is a planned effect. I already started using Povchen for that. It’s super handy to have Amarr and Jita only a couple jumps apart again, guaranteed. Also long roams are more worth doing, because you can instantly teleport home. The only thing is max 15 people at once can extract like that, compared to the 25 who can needlejack. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2021, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pochven-filaments-easy-way-to-extract-your-exploration-loot/277601/11 "2021-02-01T17:23:02Z")
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