# Poetic Justice: A view of anti-gankers failing **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [January 18, 2022, 4:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243 "2022-01-18T04:22:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/184 "2022-09-19T19:09:46Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > Good spawning position of course helps. So the “there is no counterplay” assumption is just wrong. Luck is not valid counter-play. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/185 "2022-09-19T19:10:37Z")
**Hell, we used to have so many more gankers 10 years ago.** Anti-ganking must be doing a hell of a job in reducing the overall, total number of gankers. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/186 "2022-09-19T19:12:06Z")
If the success rate can be improved with training, its not luck but skill. Sorry to hear that you are unable to do it. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/187 "2022-09-19T19:13:36Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > Anti-ganking must be doing a hell of a job in reducing the overall, total number of gankers Overfishing. Not enough prey to sustain the predators. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/188 "2022-09-19T19:15:03Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > Sorry to hear that you are unable to do it. Just more garbage trash-talk from a nobody, You would be equally unable to do it in isolated trials where the sequence is pulled off properly, because it is actually _mathematically impossible._ Sorry to hear that you are unable to perform basic arithmetic. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/189 "2022-09-19T19:15:16Z")
Sure they did. And you personally forced to quit most of them. You were best AG I saw, stop crabbing in null and come back to hs, we really need you entertaining us. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/190 "2022-09-19T19:16:12Z")
The anti-ganking has still done its job in making certain the ganker fish were overfed on their zealotry of 315, grew too large and the died off. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/191 "2022-09-19T19:18:08Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Just more garbage trash-talk from a nobody, Wow, it took like 3 posts to come from a false claim over being proven wrong to ad hominem. Keep goin’! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/192 "2022-09-19T19:19:41Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > ad hominem Using big words huh? ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/193 "2022-09-19T19:20:29Z")
Just stating facts. Can’t handle? ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/194 "2022-09-19T19:21:08Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > Can’t handle? No, just calling you a showoff. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/195 "2022-09-19T19:22:12Z")
> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > Sure they did. And you personally forced to quit most of them. I doubt AGs forced anyone to quit. Aside from a few forum regulars who are familiar with the drama, most gankers perceive AGs as random people trying to “whore on kill mails.” I know dozens of pirates/gankers who have quit EVE over the years, and _every single one_ has told me that they did so and refuse to come back because the game has become a carebear simulator, or something along those lines. The only ones griefing gankers out of the game are CCP. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/196 "2022-09-19T19:23:14Z")
Whatever floats your boat. You mind if I just don’t care for your opinion? ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/197 "2022-09-19T19:24:06Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > ad hominem ad hominem (of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining: No, actually I was attacking both the person, James315 the orchestrator of CODE and Mining Permits, who is no longer in the game as well as the decline in gankers, over the last ten years, that was due to, like you said, fewer and fewer prey. Fewer and fewer prey because hauler pilots might have taken different routes, have started to use needlejacks into and out of Trig space more effectively as well as the campaign by anti-ganking to rid the Savior of High from High Sec, which was accomplished. Now where is the ad homies at? ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/198 "2022-09-19T19:24:42Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > You mind if I just don’t care for your opinion? How rude ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/199 "2022-09-19T19:25:41Z")
Don’t do that Zaera, Code hates forum scissoring, ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/200 "2022-09-19T19:26:00Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > ad hominem (of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining: > > No, actually I was attacking both the person, James315 the orchestrator of CODE and Mining Permits, who is no longer in the game as well as the decline in gankers, over the last ten years, that was due to, like you said, fewer and fewer prey. Fewer and fewer prey because hauler pilots might have taken different routes, have started to use needlejacks into and out of Trig space more effectively as well as the campaign by anti-ganking to rid the Savior of High from High Sec, which was accomplished. > > Now where is the ad homies at? Excuse me? ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/201 "2022-09-19T19:28:06Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Luck is not valid counter-play. Yet is is the only one we have… After they changed Jita 4-4 undock, my own whole gameplay resolves around luck and there is very little I can do to increase my chances. It is all about luck and waiting for them to make a mistake. Anyway, we are the griefers we are making players quit by our actions, therefore it is only right we have to suffer and endure unfair or annoying mechanics like this, new Jita quadra-undock aligned to Perimeter or CONCORD pulling itself (which is actually extremely favorable to us, except it is annoying as hell to do all the time so AG will be against that as well 😃 ). ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/202 "2022-09-19T19:29:39Z")
> [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > waiting for them to make a mistake Sounds like skill to me. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2022, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/203 "2022-09-19T20:08:35Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > > [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > > > waiting for them to make a mistake > > Sounds like skill to me. Like that if I get better in the game they will be making more mistakes? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243.md?page=9) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243.md?page=11)