# Poetic Justice: A view of anti-gankers failing **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [January 18, 2022, 4:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243 "2022-01-18T04:22:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/224 "2022-09-20T07:56:26Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Ok so you encountered one ship that wasnt in range so you werent waxed on the way out of a gate. Well so far I encountered: 3 tornados, with an arazu that was chasing me when I survived it, but wasn’t on the grid with them initially (still I am fairly confident I would be able to burn back even if it was present as those 3 nados took only 60% of my shields if they would be even able to shoot again) solo tornado - just flew out solo Gnosis - just flew out via warp stabs solo Arazu - had to burn back to gate the gatecamp where I lost my Nereus had Phobos, Osprey Navy, Gnosis and Machariel. They bumped me and I didn’t make it to the gate. But with the Badger I am using now I am confident that I would survive even that. I don’t know what Destiny is flying, but I doubt she could solo kill me before I burn back to gate unless meanwhile she logged an alt on the opposite side. But I wouldn’t haul cargo worth billions with a char of a corp that got wardecced in first place and used neutral alt… Of course the fit I am using only allows to transport 7k m3, but on Omega DST will do better job anyway even without cloak. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/225 "2022-09-20T08:10:33Z")
I really have no idea how you achieved any of that but hats off. Anything I ever have had in situations like that just gets one shottted. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/226 "2022-09-20T12:23:59Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > I did hear it’s to mess with cloaking, which is frowned upon I believe. if so, should the law abiding Sherriff of Nottingham be asking the following? > [@Githany\_Red](#): > > If it was Ag can the fighters attack flashy reds, if they could are fighter effective on ganker type ships. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/b/6/0b6881bc51bc1352750d3c023436aa43d83556ae.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/227 "2022-09-20T13:05:24Z")
> [@Jesse\_W\_James](#): > > sloppy game play I’m curious, what makes this style of game play sloppy? I’ve been invited to and joined a couple of times to gank with Shadow Cyrilus. There is nothing sloppy about it. It takes a lot of coordination, planning and intel to pull off ganking a blinged out level 4 mission runner ship. In fact more coordination goes into this kind of game play than a null sec gate camp/roam. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/228 "2022-09-20T15:04:54Z")
I’ll send you fit. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/229 "2022-09-20T17:46:19Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > I’ve been invited to and joined a couple of times to gank with Shadow Cyrilus. There is nothing sloppy about it. It takes a lot of coordination, planning and intel to pull off ganking a blinged out level 4 mission runner ship. In fact more coordination goes into this kind of game play than a null sec gate camp/roam. That’s cause most peeps have never hunted another player. Trying to hunt someone who is actively evading is tough. Most people don’t understand why it is that pirates seem to be really good at EVE. You have to be 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/230 "2022-09-20T18:28:08Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > If it was Ag can the fighters attack flashy reds, if they could are fighter effective on ganker type ships. As I wrote earlier. Citadel in highsec can only attack wartargets. It is not allowed to get limited engagement timer against citadel hence citadel is not allowed to attack suspects nor criminals at all. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/231 "2022-09-20T18:28:29Z")
That and it’s too easy to sit there and criticize a gameplay style and act like an expert in it when you’ve never engaged in it. Or undock for that matter. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/232 "2022-09-21T11:40:06Z")
> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > I’ve been invited to and joined a couple of times to gank with Shadow Cyrilus. There is nothing sloppy about it. It takes a lot of coordination I find Shadow cyrilus one of the more dangerous gankers, when he fc’s we are in for a fight, There is nothing sloppy about ganking with groups of ag about, shield reps, burst and dps, even have to be on the ball if they miss their target because we will point them and they lose a ship unnecessarily. Just before the attack some try and fake another attack at a different gate to pull us away, Kusion even pull us to a gate once to attack us as we landed while his 2nd fleet ganked at the gate we was pulled from . How is any of this sloppy ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/233 "2022-09-21T11:53:02Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Trying to hunt someone who is actively evading is tough But satisfying when you get them. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/234 "2022-09-21T13:08:16Z")
Very true its why we hunt ---
**Author:** ![Shadow\_Cyrilus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shadow_cyrilus/32/260620_2.png) [@Shadow\_Cyrilus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shadow_Cyrilus)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 3:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/235 "2022-09-22T03:12:05Z")
AG activity is lower than ever before too ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 5:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/236 "2022-09-22T05:48:17Z")
And he did it with terrible English, lol… ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/237 "2022-09-22T07:31:15Z")
This is indeed true, many of the large gank fleets have gone in our time zone, catching you guys killing miners or mission runners is virtually impossible, that needs to be done on a local level to try and deter you, by miners themselves. It’s to time consuming for us to do effectively. Now we are trying to concentrate on crime in general, a short time ago we got involved in a low sec conflict to help a friend, that was fun. We have always been dependant on ganker or player activity and reacted to it. So if large gank stop then we are out of content. That’s the result of no real game mechanic that allows us to be ganker hunters. But we are still here trying and do have some plans ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/238 "2022-09-22T07:58:45Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > That’s the result of no real game mechanic that allows us to be ganker hunters. There are tons 😃 Follow the guide. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/239 "2022-09-22T08:45:24Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > That’s the result of no real game mechanic that allows us to be ganker hunters. And how do you imagine it should work then? I am sorry if you posted this already, but I don’t remember it. ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/240 "2022-09-22T09:04:10Z")
Bring back the bounty system! ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/241 "2022-09-22T09:05:53Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > no real game mechanic that allows us to be ganker hunters. You don’t want to do it, which is not the same as being unable to do it. Like most antigankers, you have lost interest in defending people who are AFK. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/242 "2022-09-22T09:16:43Z")
check this and perhaps comment then > [@Hopefully a fresh idea to make player bounties viable again](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hopefully-a-fresh-idea-to-make-player-bounties-viable-again/375786): > > CCP claims to taken them down due to the resources/efficiency issues. Players claims they have been taken down due to the abuse be it potential for griefing new players receiving bilion isk bounties that will never go away or by killing self with alt/friend abusing the loss mail value calculation by some high tech market manipulation schenanigans. And it is the potential abuse which is why they were never really functional in first place. There were a lot of talk on this subject in past, lots… ---
**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/243 "2022-09-22T09:19:12Z")
I know of a few Capsuleers who are really wanting the system back. / Thank you for pointing your thread out and I was happy to comment with my view if that was okay. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243.md?page=11) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243.md?page=13)