# Poetic Justice: A view of anti-gankers failing **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [January 18, 2022, 4:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243 "2022-01-18T04:22:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/264 "2022-09-27T20:39:01Z")
You’re welcome to ask us for assistance ---
**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/265 "2022-09-27T21:09:42Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > that’s the result of no real game mechanic that allows us to be ganker hunters. Well, throughout the years I offered many ideas to you and your friends: - gank all tornados using T1 Thrashers, loot all and demand permits - demand payment for anybody who gets saved and if they don’t pay the fee then gank them - keep pulling CONCORD to the gates, over and over - cargo scan everybody hauling catalysts and gank stuff, gank them later - gank all miners who use mining permits - bash stations - etc The game has enough mechanics, but my ideas were always received with comments like: - we don’t want to charge ISK - that’s moraly wrong - you smell like a ganker - you talk like a ganker - i don’t like that playstyle - that’s even worse than CODE Also I got accused of being an @Aiko_Danuja alt many dozens of times through the years over and over just because I was offering feisty ideas about how antiganking should be done. ---
**Author:** ![Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/defi_natalie_notanalt/32/352557_2.png) [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Defi_Natalie_NotAnAlt)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/266 "2022-09-27T21:22:48Z")
> [@Arya\_Yeshe](#): > > Well, throughout the years I offered many ideas to you and your friends: But did you offer the solution of “ban all ganks”? Because that’s the only solution that will the game as all the genuine nubs like me are leaving. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/267 "2022-09-27T21:28:17Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > no real game mechanic that allows us to be ganker hunters This is absolute nonsense. You don’t even have to kill me. All you have to do is click on my ship. If you point me, faction police will kill me. If I shoot at you, all you have to do is survive for a few seconds. CONCORD and gate guns will automatically kill me. Antiganking is like bowling with bumpers in the gutter. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/a/4/7a48cc5a381d0b10e39864227f56c3fe6eacc7cf.jpeg "Kids Bowling Fail Two Gutterballs with Bumpers Kids Bowling Video with Tyler") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC45N24Zu3U) ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/268 "2022-09-27T21:49:07Z")
> [@Arya\_Yeshe](#): > > - gank all tornados using T1 Thrashers, loot all and demand permits > - demand payment for anybody who gets saved and if they don’t pay the fee then gank them > - keep pulling CONCORD to the gates, over and over > - cargo scan everybody hauling catalysts and gank stuff, gank them later > - gank all miners who use mining permits > - bash stations > - etc All correct ways 😃 Esp the CONCORD pulling to gates. It basically solves Uedama. I figured that out within a few days of coming back and solved ganking 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/269 "2022-09-27T22:05:45Z")
> [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](#): > > But did you offer the solution of “ban all ganks”? Because that’s the only solution that will the game as all the genuine nubs like me are leaving. No, why would I want to bank the ganks? We need crimes in EVE and in any other game. The gank is the only way the small players can punch up against the whales, gankers are the true Robin Hoods of EVE. If you are a noob you have to gank or join a low sec group, the whales are farming the ISK for 10-15 years, they have many dozens of powerful alts and they will crush you. The whales want you to farm the ISK too, just because they will beat you in their own game. ---
**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/270 "2022-09-27T22:09:50Z")
AHAHAHAHAHA 0:46 my belly hurts ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/271 "2022-09-27T22:15:42Z")
I’ll never understand why anybody would want to waste their time, in real life, trying to protect people who are AFK in a video game and don’t even make minimal effort to protect themselves. At some point, you’ve really got to wonder why Githany Red doesn’t just join faction warfare and go play the game. Protecting plex bots would be more exciting than antiganking. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/272 "2022-09-27T22:50:29Z")
> [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](#): > > CCP must immediately and permanently ban all gankers. Or you go play Kitty Online, this game is not for you. > [@Arya\_Yeshe](#): > > Also I got accused of being an @Aiko_Danuja alt many dozens of times That one of your fantasies, to be an AIKO Alt? > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > wonder why Githany Red doesn’t just join faction warfare and go play the game Because she is infatuated with you ---
**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/273 "2022-09-27T23:06:54Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > If we could cover the cost of the tornados but at 100 mill a pop it will be a war of isk ![2022-09-27 19_58_31-Settings](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/c/c/dcc02bc326c7f0701cb4453c0dd1118b5bf8cc12.png) 1550 alpha for 1.4 mil… I can make it even cheaper. The classic ganknado has 9950 ehp, so you need 7 Thrashers that will cost you 9.8 mil ISK… if you loot the Tornado and the Thrashers you will get all your ISK back and also win the ISK war. You have enough people to do it, you always had. ![2022-09-27 20_03_32-HbLSkpK-V6MOTU2OxePBIDAVn25Tqtd6lbAHRU440ec.jpg (480×283)](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/c/e/cceeb6e90cac4e2bb9a65dc91ad558c3e50fe2ae.png) Well, I am just saying it because I know nothing will happen. And I will also make a prophecy, Tornado gankers will come back from CONCORD stations to Jita. ---
**Author:** ![Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/defi_natalie_notanalt/32/352557_2.png) [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Defi_Natalie_NotAnAlt)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 11:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/274 "2022-09-27T23:54:21Z")
Gankers are evil and destroy the game. Ban them all. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/275 "2022-09-28T00:07:53Z")
I’ll finally bite. How can you ban them from doing something within game rules? ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 12:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/276 "2022-09-28T00:16:28Z")
> [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](#): > > Gankers are evil and destroy the game. Ban them all. I only did it because of peer pressure (Aiko said she would like me if I “popped one”). Can I negotiate down to a 30-day suspension with a public apology? ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 12:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/277 "2022-09-28T00:16:47Z")
> [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](#): > > Gankers are evil and destroy the game. Ban them all. Should their local law enforcement be notified as well? Seeing that they are anti-social psychopaths that revel in the suffering of others? And since the value of the ships destroyed in a gank can be equated to RL money via PLEX, they are literally vandalizing peoples personal property and should serve jail time because of this? ---
**Author:** ![Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/defi_natalie_notanalt/32/352557_2.png) [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Defi_Natalie_NotAnAlt)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 12:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/278 "2022-09-28T00:42:16Z")
Simple. Make it against the rules, apply retroactively. > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Can I negotiate down to a 30-day suspension with a public apology? No. Banned. > [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#): > > Should their local law enforcement be notified as well? Would probably turn up a lot of crimes so why not? ---
**Author:** ![Arya\_Yeshe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arya_yeshe/32/397211_2.png) [@Arya\_Yeshe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arya_Yeshe)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 12:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/279 "2022-09-28T00:46:42Z")
> [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](#): > > Simple. Make it against the rules, apply retroactively. You are too inteligent to be an antiganker, you are Aiko, right? Only she is literate enough to speak like that around these parts /me chewing on straw ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 12:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/280 "2022-09-28T00:49:02Z")
> [@Defi\_Natalie\_NotAnAlt](#): > > Simple. Make it against the rules, apply retroactively. ROFL. I mean I get you’re trolling but c’mon man. Try harder ROFL. Retroactively LOL. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 1:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/281 "2022-09-28T01:31:53Z")
CCP should have people take a Myers-Briggs Rorschach MMPI exam when creating a new account, and if you are statistically gankotypal then you are permabanned proactively. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 1:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/282 "2022-09-28T01:46:04Z")
I’m an ENFJ 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 1:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/283 "2022-09-28T01:47:22Z")
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