# Poetic Justice: A view of anti-gankers failing **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [January 18, 2022, 4:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243 "2022-01-18T04:22:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2022, 12:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/41 "2022-04-16T00:04:54Z")
> [@Faylee\_Freir](#): > > MacGybo was shot at in an illegal manner and thus had the option to place a killright on said pilot So when somebody activates one on me, I must have done something in an illegal manner? ---
**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2022, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/42 "2022-04-16T16:09:51Z")
The only way for someone to activate a killright on you is if you pod someone in lowsec OR if you go criminal in Highsec. Whomever you shot at in Highsec can place a killright on you at that point and the killright expires 30d after the time at which the killright was obtained. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2022, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/43 "2022-04-16T19:05:28Z")
I don’t anti-gank, I’d need to go to high sec It’s a silly place. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2022, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/44 "2022-04-16T20:36:18Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > high sec > It’s a silly place. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/7/3/c73f6b7627187a38e8cdc471147c8aee2ab65564.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Jin\_Endares](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jin_endares/32/413291_2.png) [@Jin\_Endares](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jin_Endares)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/45 "2022-04-20T16:08:57Z")
> [@Faylee\_Freir](#): > > The only way for someone to activate a killright on you is if you pod someone in lowsec OR if you go criminal in Highsec. Correction. You only get a kill right on you in lowsec if it was an unprovoked kill (i.e. the other ship wasn’t a suspect or criminal or war dec’d). ---
**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2022, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/46 "2022-04-21T07:43:06Z")
Correct. ---
**Author:** ![LowKey\_Chandler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lowkey_chandler/32/441798_2.png) [@LowKey\_Chandler](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LowKey_Chandler)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/47 "2022-07-10T18:42:27Z")
You win. ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/48 "2022-07-10T20:26:06Z")
Slight correction. Going criminal in highsec doesn’t always generate killright. A hostile action is required to do it. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2022, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/49 "2022-07-13T11:15:58Z")
Anti-Gankers, ha! They fail everyday, ha ha! What sad gameplay, ha! ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2022, 6:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/50 "2022-07-15T06:08:58Z")
I’ve already posted several guides on how to AG effectively. AGers are simply bad at de game 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2022, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/51 "2022-07-15T17:12:24Z")
Your ideas are not flexible , you have made some good points but you cant keep doing the same thing, eve doesn’t work like that ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/516281_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/52 "2022-07-19T06:09:16Z")
One flexible idea is to _activate_ a killright before opening fire to effectively kill a ganker. [This](https://zkillboard.com/kill/102195091/) is how you do not do it. At least he brought his best ship. 🤣 (he was ganked earlier in his hauler full of crap, so he had a killright on the ganker ^^). ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 11:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/53 "2022-07-22T23:55:58Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > [This](https://zkillboard.com/kill/102195091/) is how you do not do it. At least he brought his best ship. Darwin strikes again ---
**Author:** ![LowKey\_Chandler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lowkey_chandler/32/441798_2.png) [@LowKey\_Chandler](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/LowKey_Chandler)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2022, 6:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/54 "2022-07-23T18:14:43Z")
What in the heck does that guys isk pile look like? Good grief. That’s like taking a gold leaf decorated maserati to a figure eight demo derby. ---
**Author:** ![Geminus\_Duolphus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geminus_duolphus/32/329938_2.png) [@Geminus\_Duolphus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geminus_Duolphus)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/55 "2022-07-31T23:16:09Z")
It doesn’t pay to anti gank for no other reason than it’s meaningless. Why spend time trying to harm people with no qualms about throwing away ships just to get some green on their killboard. They don’t do it for the profit. They buy their catalysts in bulk and they have zero shame. Might as well just fly your pvp ship out of high sec and leave the Care Bears to prey on eachother in their own special way. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2022, 3:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/56 "2022-08-02T03:19:12Z")
> [@Geminus\_Duolphus](#): > > t doesn’t pay to anti gank for no other reason than it’s meaningless. That’s true > [@Geminus\_Duolphus](#): > > They don’t do it for the profit. They buy their catalysts in bulk and they have zero shame. Help me understand what is so shameful about blowing up someones imaginary pixilated space ship in a videogame that is pvp centric. > [@Geminus\_Duolphus](#): > > Might as well just fly your pvp ship out of high sec Something tells me that you don’t pvp. Though I haven’t looked up your zkillboard because I’m lazy and I’ll probably find that either there isn’t one for you or it’s mostly green or you’re F1 blob monkey. > [@Geminus\_Duolphus](#): > > leave the Care Bears to prey on eachother in their own special way. Yes, they are special aren’t they. And it’s fun to watch them turn on each other. Like rats in a sinking ship. ---
**Author:** ![Geminus\_Duolphus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geminus_duolphus/32/329938_2.png) [@Geminus\_Duolphus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geminus_Duolphus)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2022, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/57 "2022-08-02T08:03:36Z")
The lack of shame refers to them being happy to get their kills in the cheapest way possible. It is a risk adverse play style. You might fail a gank sure, but it is difficult to do so when you only need to calculate the number of catalysts to bring. They prey on the softest targets that don’t shoot back. Risk adverse = carebear. He’ll the mission runners and miners play with more risk because they undock with uncertainty. In a weird kind of way the Care Bears are less care bear than the gankers. You won’t find much on this toon, it’s an alt that was trained up for mining in a previous life before I realised it was mind numbingly boring to me and barely profitable without multiboxing. CCP kindly stripped those SP out for me with the Indy update and now they are sitting waiting to be re-invested when I need them. You will find a mix of green and red on my actual killboard. I’m not great at pvp but when I do undock I do it knowing I could fail and lose my ship without a green mark to match the loss. However when I do kill something it’s more satisfying for the risk of failure. I mission in low sec and npc null too because even when I earn I like to have the ever present danger which is different to having to dock up when you see a blob of red or one of their scouts in system. I fly solo and I fly in small gangs and occassionally I’m asked to form up in a defence fleet to fight a bigger fleet. However we don’t blob because we want to be engagable. In fact blobbing almost ensures we won’t get a fight so why do it. As opposed to high sec where the only way to ‘pvp’ is to blob with enough catalysts to guarantee the kill. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2022, 8:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/58 "2022-08-02T08:31:03Z")
> [@Geminus\_Duolphus](#): > > It doesn’t pay to anti gank for no other reason than it’s meaningless. We don’t do it for profit , we do it to stop gankers who are high sec criminals , whats hard to see about that ---
**Author:** ![Vokan\_Narkar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vokan_narkar/32/326293_2.png) [@Vokan\_Narkar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vokan_Narkar)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2022, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/59 "2022-08-02T08:43:54Z")
I only see you on the forums who is saying that. And who I believe it. Everyone else is demanding some reward from CCP for it here be it loyalty points or something else. And vast majority of players who shoots gankers (ok lets not call them AG that is toxic label and you don’t like it) are not trying to prevent the gank at all, they just want to post the killmail with CONCORD on it onto killboard to pad it. Again. If gankers are the lowest of lowest who attack harmless players in highsec because they can’t do any better as they are cowards who are afraid to visit ls/ns/wh, then what are those who are waiting on the grid in cheap ship waiting for them to arrive to whore on them? ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2022, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243/60 "2022-08-02T08:54:42Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > We don’t do it for profit , we do it to stop gankers who are high sec criminals ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/3/5/635d798209fd429a6c1f35d3e21c102c3e2eb20f.gif) > [@Vokan\_Narkar](#): > > Again. ANTI GANKERS are the lowest of lowest who attack HARMLESS GANKERS in highsec because they can’t do any better as they are cowards who are afraid to visit ls/ns/wh See what I did there? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/poetic-justice-a-view-of-anti-gankers-failing/346243.md?page=4)