# Policy Update - Real Life Threats & Harassment **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, official\ **Created:** [September 20, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861 "2018-09-20T15:58:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![CCP\_Falcon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ccp_falcon/32/143229_2.png) [@CCP\_Falcon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CCP_Falcon)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/1 "2018-09-20T15:58:40Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/1/e/1e7979a8115b77d79a9823ae5421f00b8af6f7f9.jpeg) [Check out this news item](https://www.eveonline.com/article/pfd34y/policy-update-real-life-threats-and-harassment) for details of changes and clarifications to our Real Life Threats and Harassment Policy, as well as a [new public facing version of this policy](https://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/real-life-harassment-threats-policy-en/) as well as details on how we respond to these kinds of situations. Feel free to discuss this news item in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![zander\_exvirus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zander_exvirus/32/189470_2.png) [@zander\_exvirus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zander_exvirus)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/2 "2018-09-20T16:11:22Z")
first ---
**Author:** ![Rovinia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rovinia/32/483428_2.png) [@Rovinia](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rovinia)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/3 "2018-09-20T16:12:11Z")
Allways sad that decent social behavior has to be enforced that way, but unfortunately it’s necessary. ---
**Author:** ![Rivr\_Luzade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rivr_luzade/32/311061_2.png) [@Rivr\_Luzade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rivr_Luzade)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/4 "2018-09-20T16:12:14Z")
@CCP_Falcon How about you post the change or addition to the policies in the dev blog? Right now, this dev blog does not explain anything with regards to the changes or additions to the policies. And is “Yo Momma is so fat” already too much? Furthermore, yesterday someone in my fleet got presumably insulted in a private chat in what presumably was Croatian. A fleet member who speaks a similar language said it was very a very unflattering comment about someone’s sexuality, Google Translate didn’t really yield a conclusive result. What do you do in these cases? ---
**Author:** ![Annah\_Tsero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annah_tsero/32/96572_2.png) [@Annah\_Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Tsero)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/5 "2018-09-20T16:13:05Z")
I know a lot of angry miners who’ll get the boot hahahahah Remember kids, it’s just pixels ---
**Author:** ![Saeger1737](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saeger1737/32/459629_2.png) [@Saeger1737](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saeger1737)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/6 "2018-09-20T16:17:43Z")
Is thread/forum stalking also against the rules… ![images%20(4)](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/6/5/65d5528c45c7db1c364efde4312141ce6998f642.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Duo\_Roman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duo_roman/32/379186_2.png) [@Duo\_Roman](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duo_Roman)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/7 "2018-09-20T16:21:56Z")
> [@Annah\_Tsero](#): > > I know a lot of angry miners who’ll get the boot hahahahah This is not a miners exclusive problem, there are plenty of hands-on and wizard hat people who got punished before and there will be plenty more I’m sure. Remember, salt is fuel in this case. ---
**Author:** ![GAREGIN\_NZHDEH](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/garegin_nzhdeh/32/343579_2.png) [@GAREGIN\_NZHDEH](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/GAREGIN_NZHDEH)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/8 "2018-09-20T16:23:31Z")
Good deal, I always envision a stalker as a werewolf type of person. ---
**Author:** ![NorBdelta\_Aivoras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/norbdelta_aivoras/32/269110_2.png) [@NorBdelta\_Aivoras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NorBdelta_Aivoras)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/9 "2018-09-20T16:23:48Z")
The types of behaviour that we consider to be harassment include but are not limited to: \ ***Racism** \ ***Sexism** ^^ Does the above apply to the character in the game or only their real-life person? For example: In the sense when someone who is an Amarr character calls a female avatar who is Minmitar a “dirty slave harlot” in a role-playing sense? Would this be harassment or is this a role-playing mechanic? ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/10 "2018-09-20T16:26:36Z")
This was one of our goals for this summit and I am very pleased to see CCP clarifying their policy so that players are aware of what behavior crosses a line, they know what the penalties will be, and that victims have resources to resolve issues when they happen. Thanks to the CS team for meeting with us and I’m happy that we were able to work together on this. ---
**Author:** ![Makavi\_Madeveda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makavi_madeveda/32/495789_2.png) [@Makavi\_Madeveda](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makavi_Madeveda)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/11 "2018-09-20T16:29:28Z")
Mitanni is still here after being on a stage with CCP staff at a CCP Fanfest and encouraging people to make another player kill himself. Your “harrassment” rules meant nothing then, they mean nothing now. Funnily enough, Mittens was Chairman of the CSM at the time as well. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbYNLmtAMAw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbYNLmtAMAw) ---
**Author:** ![Heera-o\_Helugo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/heera-o_helugo/32/203799_2.png) [@Heera-o\_Helugo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Heera-o_Helugo)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/12 "2018-09-20T16:30:32Z")
Got a little something on your nose there. Hard line approaches never work when it comes to speech regulation. This policy is roughly there with the level of censorship that some countries experience. The existing fighting words doctrine was a more reasonable approach. ---
**Author:** ![AnarchoJohn\_Etnannarac](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anarchojohn_etnannarac/32/468178_2.png) [@AnarchoJohn\_Etnannarac](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/AnarchoJohn_Etnannarac)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/13 "2018-09-20T16:30:53Z")
How does CCP define hate speech? ---
**Author:** ![Duo\_Roman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duo_roman/32/379186_2.png) [@Duo\_Roman](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duo_Roman)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/14 "2018-09-20T16:33:25Z")
And got punished. Different threats, different punishments though. ---
**Author:** ![Overmind\_Niminen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/overmind_niminen/32/294124_2.png) [@Overmind\_Niminen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Overmind_Niminen)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/15 "2018-09-20T16:34:07Z")
miners whould never do such things, we are always polite, even to the religious fanatics of CODE. ---
**Author:** ![Kalldaar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kalldaar/32/110141_2.png) [@Kalldaar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kalldaar)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 4:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/16 "2018-09-20T16:36:27Z")
Hate speech is a crime in most nations and you can get jail time because of it… being banned for life from a online game for the same behavior is not nearly as extreme as you think… remember that not all all of us live in the “say whatever you want of america” and most of us are pretty happy with our laws regarding this matter… ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/17 "2018-09-20T16:39:27Z")
> [@Heera-o\_Helugo](#): > > Got a little something on your nose there. > > Hard line approaches never work when it comes to speech regulation. This policy is roughly there with the level of censorship that some countries experience. > The existing fighting words doctrine was a more reasonable approach. That’s a freckle. This isn’t speech regulation. This is acknowledging that when people make threats against folks playing a game, those threats need to be taken seriously and CCP has a responsibility to play their role in stopping that behavior. Given how this level of harassment has escalated and people have been killed - it happened at a Madden tournament in Florida just a month ago, and SWATting is still a thing - this is something every game company needs to be cognizant of and take seriously. I’m glad CCP is willing to lead by example in this regard. ---
**Author:** ![Mojomon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mojomon/32/68273_2.png) [@Mojomon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mojomon)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/18 "2018-09-20T16:40:31Z")
Good too see CCP and the CSM take a hand’s on approach to this ---
**Author:** ![Makavi\_Madeveda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makavi_madeveda/32/495789_2.png) [@Makavi\_Madeveda](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makavi_Madeveda)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/19 "2018-09-20T16:40:33Z")
“Punished”. ROFL ---
**Author:** ![Kanzero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kanzero/32/394038_2.png) [@Kanzero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kanzero)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/20 "2018-09-20T16:40:54Z")
You turning SJW on me CCP? You’ll lose thousands of members who have been here since the beginning, if you do. Let me show you a video that expresses my views on the matter [https://youtu.be/VgvM7av1o1Q](https://youtu.be/VgvM7av1o1Q) Please take note [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861.md?page=2)