# Policy Update - Real Life Threats & Harassment

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861>\
**Category:** Announcements\
**Tags:** feedback, official\
**Created:** [September 20, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861 "2018-09-20T15:58:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sugar\_Smacks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sugar_smacks/32/430124_2.png) [@Sugar\_Smacks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sugar_Smacks)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/489 "2018-09-22T09:56:26Z")

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I think the incidents you mentioned are some of the exact things that led to a policy to begin with, where people crossed the line. You cant go back and retry someone but you can insure it doesn’t happen again.

As CODE goes, I am not worried for CODE, they are fine, it was the people they infuriate and cause to lash out that could possibly be at risk. But I think CCP has a pretty good understanding of rage with loss and I doubt they jump to banning someone for saying stupid things.

I actually believe equal enforcement is what is going to happen, but you cant have that without a base of rules established.

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**Author:** ![Sugar\_Smacks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sugar_smacks/32/430124_2.png) [@Sugar\_Smacks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sugar_Smacks)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/490 "2018-09-22T10:04:32Z")

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I would also like to point out that the gaming community in general uses the word rape a whole lot. In fact Ultima Online made the word illegal to say in game and systematically banned people for saying it. Needless to say they lost a hefty amount of players due to this policy. I also have seen other games like League try to warn and punish players for using the word rape. However knowing many gamers, and most always being male, it is a heavily used term still usually out of game. Usually to signify getting totally destroyed by someone else. The community seemed to try to shift the word rape to pwn at one time but it doesn’t seem to have caught on.

What I am saying is I don’t believe it is proper to use rape in most contexts, I also don’t believe removing people for using it as a in game term should be bannable (EA was wrong).

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**Author:** ![Eve\_Griefer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eve_griefer/32/277788_2.png) [@Eve\_Griefer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eve_Griefer)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/491 "2018-09-22T10:17:52Z")

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Could always substitute with ‘canola’.

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**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/492 "2018-09-22T10:33:45Z")

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> [@Olleybear](#):
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> Now, saying the above, lets watch what CCP does with this. Time will give us the answer and I am hopeful CCP is as wise as I think they are.
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> This does bring to mind an old saying though: The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

CCP made in EVE a **social environment** , where you are allowed to **DO** very toxic things silently and are perma-banned for **SAYING** toxic things. It reminds me the superb Charlie Chaplin movies.

[![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/a/6/0a6e32a9d784656bdf2ecd9e62333cfd7f3f2eee.jpeg "Charlie Chaplin - Eating Machine") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_1apYo6-Ow)

You say “_Lets watch what CCP does with this_”, then I have a suggestion to rename EVE to **EVE ~~Online~~ Muted**.

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**Author:** ![Isaac\_Korbut](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isaac_korbut/32/98017_2.png) [@Isaac\_Korbut](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Isaac_Korbut)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/493 "2018-09-22T10:40:58Z")

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“African” ? Are you freakin’ serious ? And btw, there’s no such thing as “american” =)

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**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 10:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/494 "2018-09-22T10:46:37Z")

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![skeleton-in-the-closet](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/6/f/6fd223b1d17744164e327798b303e48d6a4ae419.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/corraidhin_farsaidh/32/10994_2.png) [@Corraidhin\_Farsaidh](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Corraidhin_Farsaidh)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/495 "2018-09-22T10:59:46Z")

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Isn’t saying you speak American cultural appropriation of the English language?

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**Author:** ![Sethyrh\_Nakrar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sethyrh_nakrar/32/12695_2.png) [@Sethyrh\_Nakrar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sethyrh_Nakrar)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/496 "2018-09-22T11:04:38Z")

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Well. The UN talks about that now for how long? 16 odd years. #unisuseless

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**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/497 "2018-09-22T11:32:42Z")

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> [@Nolak\_Ataru](#):
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> If someone makes a real life threat that is currently already bannable, what difference does tacking on a “racism” tag do?

It doesn’t make a difference. But, again, you are the one who brought up racism. I responded to your point about “the best way to combat racism is to talk to the racist.”

The point of banning someone for making a threat isn’t to change their mind, it’s to remove them from the community so they have no outlet for making more threats or trying to escalate them.

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**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/498 "2018-09-22T11:36:39Z")

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> [@Jeremiah\_Saken](#):
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> How many CSM members are from the country between Canada and Mexico?

4 Americans, 3 UK,. 2 Australians, 1 German.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/499 "2018-09-22T11:46:37Z")

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Everybody should just close chat and never use it again. Its the only way to be perfectly sure you will not write anything bad and will not be provoked. 😂

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**Author:** ![Eve\_Griefer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eve_griefer/32/277788_2.png) [@Eve\_Griefer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eve_Griefer)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/500 "2018-09-22T11:48:59Z")

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> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> Everybody should just close chat and never use it again. Its the only way to be perfectly sure you will not write anything bad and will not be provoked. 😂

Or, one could simply not say things that will bring the hammer down. It’s not that hard to be civil.

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**Author:** ![Rivr\_Luzade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rivr_luzade/32/311061_2.png) [@Rivr\_Luzade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rivr_Luzade)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/501 "2018-09-22T12:16:50Z")

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Good joke. Tell that to a large portion of the CONDI members and a considerable portion of the user base. 😉

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**Author:** ![Whitehound](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/whitehound/32/59604_2.png) [@Whitehound](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Whitehound)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/502 "2018-09-22T13:10:42Z")

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This reminds me off this guy:

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**Author:** ![anas\_moraished](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anas_moraished/32/135612_2.png) [@anas\_moraished](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/anas_moraished)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/503 "2018-09-22T13:31:41Z")

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If you want to enforce this rule do it fully and no one should be taken easy even your close frinds.

I saw alot of ppl judging on something because it is hurt them but they do it agianst others at same  
time and lughing … ETC

Do not be the guy that have dubble standards.

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**Author:** ![Kaelen\_Mosar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaelen_mosar/32/75623_2.png) [@Kaelen\_Mosar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaelen_Mosar)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/504 "2018-09-22T13:36:16Z")

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Ccp Falcont is a badass troll pls Ban him for harassing people on Twitter + hes abusing animals for Personal fame disgusting

> <https://twitter.com/CCP_Falcon/status/1042740317043257344>

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**Author:** ![anas\_moraished](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anas_moraished/32/135612_2.png) [@anas\_moraished](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/anas_moraished)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/505 "2018-09-22T13:51:34Z")

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I recommend any stuff happning outside the game to not being involved as reason for a band.

> [@Kaelen\_Mosar](#):
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> Ccp Falcont is a badass troll pls Ban him for harassing people on Twitter + hes abusing animals for Personal fame disgusting

lol

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**Author:** ![Cismet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cismet/32/394370_2.png) [@Cismet](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cismet)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/506 "2018-09-22T14:11:38Z")

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His punishment was nothing more than a joke. He should have been perma-banned, never to return. The “man” is a disgrace.

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**Author:** ![Makavi\_Madeveda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makavi_madeveda/32/495789_2.png) [@Makavi\_Madeveda](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makavi_Madeveda)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/507 "2018-09-22T16:12:53Z")

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> [@Cismet](#):
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> His punishment was nothing more than a joke. He should have been perma-banned, never to return. The “man” is a disgrace.

That’s why CCP making rules is a joke. Friends don’t make friends follow the rules.

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**Author:** ![Mingja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mingja/32/50857_2.png) [@Mingja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mingja)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2018, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/508 "2018-09-22T17:22:28Z")

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> [@Eve\_Griefer](#):
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> Or, one could simply not say things that will bring the hammer down. It’s not that hard to be civil.

Ever talked to hardcore christians? They will try to verbally murder you for suggesting that there are other gods around when you call a Loki on Dscan. 😃

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