# Policy Update - Real Life Threats & Harassment **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, official\ **Created:** [September 20, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861 "2018-09-20T15:58:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 39
**Author:** ![Aetrid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aetrid/32/77858_2.png) [@Aetrid](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aetrid)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/775 "2018-09-25T21:20:10Z")
Love his music. ---
**Author:** ![Messir\_Astaroth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/messir_astaroth/32/448074_2.png) [@Messir\_Astaroth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Messir_Astaroth)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/776 "2018-09-26T14:02:36Z")
As the one, who was a victim of doxxing once (and petitioned it), I fully appreciate these changes. I also like to think, that I was the one, whos case actually motivated CCP to look at their own rule set about RL harassment, and rethink them, so they now actually protect people and enforce the law. At last. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/777 "2018-09-26T16:18:56Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > you are so NOT 2018… > > Today we must wrap EVERYTHING in cotton wool so that the special snowflakes are not bruised by words… > > They are so easy bruised…even the slightest word will let them cry in vain… > > that’s 2018…that’s today…that’s us… Stop posting and tweeting Donald. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 3:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/779 "2018-09-27T03:17:05Z")
Why would you try to bruise someone with words? That is a form of harassment to an interior personality that you think exists that you are applying your own form of physical abuse too in order to try and shatter their personality. Why is that? Abusive words leave no marks like physical abuse does. Physical abuse can be tried and proven in a court. How can you prove word abuse? Simple, use a word of abuse that translates to trying too use the massless to create an effect upon a body with mass. Not even wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Kharina\_Viliana](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kharina_viliana/32/212856_2.png) [@Kharina\_Viliana](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kharina_Viliana)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 3:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/780 "2018-09-27T03:31:56Z")
So does that mean attacking asteroids with lasers is a form of physical harassment and if they report me I can be banned? how about shooting belt rats isn’t that harassing them too? what about trying to work the market too If you undercut someone by even 0.01 isk isn’t that harassing their wallet income? what about sitting in local and not doing anything that takes server load to do as well harassing the electrical flow with unneeded usage… Just sayin…might as well ban the game from itself…it violates the EULA. So apparently my post has been hidden, its again another way freedom of speech is being stamped out when it goes against the status quo, like these words are any less relevant than anything else said in this forum post, and yet my words aren’t even as offensive as other postings and yet its directly targeted by certain individuals and hidden, So are you really going to hide my post and directly assault my freedom of speech with your post hiding illuminati propaganda one view post processing?? ---
**Author:** ![Messir\_Astaroth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/messir_astaroth/32/448074_2.png) [@Messir\_Astaroth](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Messir_Astaroth)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 4:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/781 "2018-09-27T04:12:09Z")
Cmon guys, dont behave and act like you are so clinically stupid. Because you are not. I dont believe that any human being can be dumb enough to not fully understand the meaning of the word ‘harassment’ and ‘word abuse’. Stop pretending that you dont know what extreme levels of offence can actually reach such horrible thing as badmouthing. If you say that any ■■■■ like that is okay, well then lets say that nazism, racism, discrimination by religion, nation, skin color and sex - is okay too. What??? They are all mainly word abuse!! They cant be BAD! ---
**Author:** ![Kasandra\_Erquilenne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kasandra_erquilenne/32/432685_2.png) [@Kasandra\_Erquilenne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kasandra_Erquilenne)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/782 "2018-09-27T09:47:23Z")
I live in a country that is striving to define hate speech in laws and make it an criminal act, go do your own research I have done mine. ---
**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/783 "2018-09-27T12:05:50Z")
A new meme is born **_Ignorance of the language does not exempt a person from this responsibility!_** ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/784 "2018-09-27T16:35:11Z")
This is not about not understanding…it’s about opposing and ignoring the snowflakes… Clear words for clear minded people who KNOW that the ONLY answer for an insult is to re-insult one…and yes even let your fist collide with ones teeth…but not run to your mummy and cry at the court… ---
**Author:** ![Jallukola](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jallukola/32/184701_2.png) [@Jallukola](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jallukola)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/794 "2018-09-27T23:06:34Z")
Offense is always taken, never given. ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/799 "2018-09-28T16:39:21Z")
> [@BIade\_Runner](#): > > The reality is as harsh as we want to make it. Most of us do not live anymore in a jungle or in mountains fighting with wild animals on resources for everyday life. We fight at most with the other people… and if that people want to make the life harsh for the others then they don’t need to be surprised that some other people will not be very happy about that. > You live in some ghetto or in a country ravaged by war, and that make your life a very harsh experience? Or is just the result of a harsh childhood who made you to see the interactions with other people in a such hostile way? > Because in any civilized country, with civilized institutions like police, social services and everything else that people need to feel protected, is no way that a person will see the world like a very dark and dangerous place… The reality is as harsh as it is…your whishful thinking does not change it… Maybe your bubble reality life is all pink and all people are good and working for the community…the life of the 99% that is not you is not that way believe it or not… So wake up and see the world as it is not as you whish it would be… ---
**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/827 "2018-09-28T17:45:35Z")
**_Ignorance of the language does not exempt a person from this responsibility!_** ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2018, 1:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/828 "2018-09-29T01:10:46Z")
Removed some off topic posts. ---
**Author:** ![Rifter\_Enthusiast](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rifter_enthusiast/32/36839_2.png) [@Rifter\_Enthusiast](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rifter_Enthusiast)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 8:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/829 "2018-09-30T08:08:45Z")
“toxicity” should be removed. its not defined at all, and can cover pretty much every form of interaction in eve. Many would describe the act of scamming “toxic behavior” under these vague rules, scamming may or may not be a violation. what SJWs have blackmailed you? i have to wonder. ---
**Author:** ![Rifter\_Enthusiast](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rifter_enthusiast/32/36839_2.png) [@Rifter\_Enthusiast](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rifter_Enthusiast)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/830 "2018-09-30T08:15:59Z")
the SJW cancer has infected eve while i was gone, it seems. For example, in this very thread, look at this post, which has been flagged and hidden: [https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/725](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/725) i can barely make out what he’s trying to say but i certainly dont see anything that deserves to be flagged and censored here. What the hell is going on with eve? are we allowed to pvp still? ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/831 "2018-09-30T09:03:03Z")
Likely they got flagged for spam. Because they keep posting rambles that lose the plot mixing rl and ig. Perhaps rather than getting up in arms have a deeper think. ---
**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/832 "2018-09-30T11:46:42Z")
Too much mention of ‘SJW’ in this thread - is this the ghost of GamerGate ? ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/833 "2018-09-30T22:33:41Z")
Just people watching too much YouTube and getting triggered by words like “hate speech” without actually looking at the lengthy explanation CCP Guard gave what they will do if they think you behave incorrectly (hint: they will talk to you and tell you what they think is not OK and why) ---
**Author:** ![Koss\_Vha](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/koss_vha/32/76894_2.png) [@Koss\_Vha](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Koss_Vha)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/834 "2018-10-02T13:22:47Z")
There was a public apology from Mittens, he stepped down as CSM chairman and the official punishment ended up being a 30 day ban. Also don’t forget this was back in 2012 and the very reason this thread exists it that the policy has been changed since then and is now more clearly defined. Now looking at GigX’s violation… We can clearly see it was a lot more recent and it wasn’t just bullying, it was a threat of real life physical violence and real life stalking/DOXing (trying to acquire a players private information). New policies cannot affect things that have happened years ago and CCP has the sole discretion when it comes to choice of punishment and validity/severity of offence. Not to mention the fact that “Real-life threats” and “Harassment” very clearly defined as two separate categories of offence. Finally my personal opinion is that either you very much have a horse in this race contrary to what you claim, you literally do not understand how the past/present/future system we call time works or you’re choosing to ignore the facts. Either way i hope you have been educated. With deepest sympathy, Koss Vha (Some say Kosm) ---
**Author:** ![lilsteel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lilsteel/32/272085_2.png) [@lilsteel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/lilsteel)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2018, 3:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/835 "2018-10-03T03:12:33Z")
I’m charged with real life threats and harassment type charges and they also try to interfere against me leaving my country for that. Either way, I want nothing to do with them, not now or ever. They use that to harass me and threaten me, and to try to justify the attacks against me since , they think in error, they can do as a sort of self-defense, even though the actions they deem illegal are not what they are making it to be, so to avail them and to make them be as they want. Unfortunately, it would be illegal for me to associate with them at this point. > [@Jallukola](#): > > Offense is always taken, never given. I’m sure I can quote you quite a few systems patents which are designed at exactly doing what you say it does never. In fact, I also have to move to go register patents due to those same system which you say they don’t. It’s also to prevent life endangering to public , including threats and threats level. While to deny someone the ability to do good to society might seem as a viable solution to some, to keep them into discredit, it can hardly be good for society , and it’s in fact those who cause it to be that way who create the problem. In fact, the party denied ability to benefit society should prove the case to use it against the party causing damage, even if he is wrongfully accused of causing damage when he is not. It’s being good to society while the other option is evil and treacherous. I don’t suggest to keep one’s family in those systems, it’s not raising them up in virtue, but rather into vice. Needless to say, I do design systems against that, and rightfully so. It happens everyday, 24/7. They never take holidays, and they are even targeting holidays since they can inflict more damage at critical time , policing it. Being a publisher, CCP obeys publishing rules, and when they get problems take action. You may or may not agree, it won’t change the fact. It takes more understanding to figure it out. It takes more practice to correct it. Ignorance can kill you and it most probably will. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861.md?page=38) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861.md?page=40)