# Policy Update - Real Life Threats & Harassment **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** feedback, official\ **Created:** [September 20, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861 "2018-09-20T15:58:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Harrigan\_VonStudly](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/harrigan_vonstudly/32/45151_2.png) [@Harrigan\_VonStudly](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Harrigan_VonStudly)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/63 "2018-09-20T17:29:46Z")
How does CCP insure that someone on Twitter, let’s say, who violates a CCP harrassment rule against another player ON Twitter is actually the person they’re after? Not all players use their in-game name on Twitter. I think you’re stepping on to a slippery slope when you start enforcing things outside the game. True crimes commited on platforms outside of the game not owned by CCP are not within your control. You may aid authorites in helping identify someone irl if they commited a crime but to punish someone over something completely elsewhere is overstepping your bounds. ---
**Author:** ![Sugar\_Smacks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sugar_smacks/32/430124_2.png) [@Sugar\_Smacks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sugar_Smacks)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/64 "2018-09-20T17:30:25Z")
All im saying is CODE blows up some stupid noob miner, he gets angry, spews some stupidity, and is gone forever for it? ---
**Author:** ![Annah\_Tsero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annah_tsero/32/96572_2.png) [@Annah\_Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Tsero)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/65 "2018-09-20T17:30:34Z")
> [@Ethan\_Meklan](#): > > CODE can actually be very harassing and insulting at times, often placing bounties on you and sending eve mail if you don’t have a permit, makes me feel bad. > [@Ethan\_Meklan](#): > > This is a clear example of harassment. No It’s rp You need a mining permit to mine, haul, do pve in highsec… it’s the Law of our Saviour ---
**Author:** ![Ethan\_Meklan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ethan_meklan/32/509257_2.png) [@Ethan\_Meklan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ethan_Meklan)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/66 "2018-09-20T17:30:44Z")
[z0rberg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0rberg) to clarify, I have not met or spoke to every single member of CODE, but the ones I have met have been the reason I moved deeper into Null Sec from Low Sec. If you are a member of CODE I apologise if that initial comment caused offence, it was a mistake in my writing and I deeply apologise. However if you represent CODE some accountability should be taken somewhere, it is the Corporation of CODES responsibility going forward to take accountability therein in my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![z0rberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0rberg/32/29223_2.png) [@z0rberg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0rberg)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/67 "2018-09-20T17:31:35Z")
gotta say he really tickles my anger bone when he declares all of code as assholes harrassing people literally all the time. > [@Ethan\_Meklan](#): > > to clarify, I have not met or spoke to every single member of CODE, but the ones I have met have been the reason I moved deeper into Null Sec from Low Sec. If you are a member of CODE I apologise if that initial comment caused offence, it was a mistake in my writing and I deeply apologise. However if you represent CODE some accountability should be taken somewhere, it is the Corporation of CODES responsibility going forward to take accountability therein in my opinion. you wrote that before my post. well … 's good you’re apologising. I ain’t a code member, but it had to be said. Maybe ya should also stop reacting to every single post so others have a chance as well. You’re salvoshin’, mate, and when the actual Salvos comes up in here you two are gonna explode the forums. ---
**Author:** ![Mingja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mingja/32/50857_2.png) [@Mingja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mingja)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/68 "2018-09-20T17:32:02Z")
> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > From this point forward, it should be clearer to folks what is and isn’t okay and what the potential penalties will be for violating the policy. Most points are, just that these 3 here aren’t: - Racism - Sexism - Hate speech There is no clear definition of it and, incase of racism and sexism, the definitions are changing very rapidly. CCP can not demand that players follow every single new idea, especially if no source for decision making is given. If you ask specific feminists (one particular which is recognized as “credible” by the UN as an example), literally EVERYTHING is sexist, so please: give a proper definition on which grounds decisions are made. It is vital to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Annah\_Tsero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annah_tsero/32/96572_2.png) [@Annah\_Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Tsero)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/69 "2018-09-20T17:32:45Z")
Nobody in CODE. does harassment, nor do they target noobs specifically. We all work by the rules set by CCP (Otherwise we’d all be banned lol) ---
**Author:** ![Ethan\_Meklan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ethan_meklan/32/509257_2.png) [@Ethan\_Meklan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ethan_Meklan)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/70 "2018-09-20T17:32:55Z")
Well if one person in your corp sets the precedent of harassment what do you expect me to say? However since these new policies going forward I will block you and everyone in CODE I come across. I only want peace and to be left alone by your Corp ideally. No need to send me consistent permit reminders when I am not even in high sec etc… ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/71 "2018-09-20T17:33:49Z")
> [@Mingja](#): > > Most points are, just that these 3 here aren’t: > > - Racism > - Sexism > - Hate speech > > There is no clear definition of it and, incase of racism and sexism, the definitions are changing very rapidly. CCP can not demand that players follow every single new idea, especially if no source for decision making is given. > > If you ask specific feminists (one particular which is recognized as “credible” by the UN as an example), literally EVERYTHING is sexist, so please: give a proper definition on which grounds decisions are made. It is vital to do so. CCP will determine, in each case, if somebody has crossed the line. If everybody would just use some common sense and not be douchey edgelords, there won’t be many problems. ---
**Author:** ![Annah\_Tsero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annah_tsero/32/96572_2.png) [@Annah\_Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Tsero)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/72 "2018-09-20T17:34:07Z")
> [@Ethan\_Meklan](#): > > I will block you and everyone in CODE I come across. Just remember, you may block us, but you’ll still get shot and killed 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Dregoth\_Urik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dregoth_urik/32/161209_2.png) [@Dregoth\_Urik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dregoth_Urik)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/73 "2018-09-20T17:34:17Z")
I respected this company because it allowed a sense of throwback to better days of online-play banter and attitude that isn’t allowed by so many today. In your campaign to champion the rights of everyone, you’re easily eliminating that aspect of the game as it can easily be twisted towards harassment given your namby-pamby thin-skinned definitions from what I read in the updated policy. We don’t need another Riot Games. ---
**Author:** ![Lasairiona\_Raske](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lasairiona_raske/32/467893_2.png) [@Lasairiona\_Raske](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lasairiona_Raske)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/74 "2018-09-20T17:34:25Z")
> [@Brisc\_Rubal](#): > > If everybody would just use some common sense and not be douchey edgelords, there won’t be many problems. I admire your optimism. ---
**Author:** ![Brisc\_Rubal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brisc_rubal/32/374307_2.png) [@Brisc\_Rubal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brisc_Rubal)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/75 "2018-09-20T17:34:55Z")
> [@Lasairiona\_Raske](#): > > I admire your optimism. Oh, I don’t expect anybody to do that, but they can’t say they weren’t warned if they get the stick. ---
**Author:** ![Ethan\_Meklan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ethan_meklan/32/509257_2.png) [@Ethan\_Meklan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ethan_Meklan)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/76 "2018-09-20T17:35:01Z")
[Annah Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Tsero) This is the thing, your corp does not understand that I am not in High sec. ---
**Author:** ![R\_Dan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/r_dan/32/64263_2.png) [@R\_Dan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/R_Dan)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/78 "2018-09-20T17:35:29Z")
hate speech, racism and sexism all deserve to be banned and punished, as does everything else this policy mentions -I have been here since the beginning, and i endorse this policy. ---
**Author:** ![Annah\_Tsero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annah_tsero/32/96572_2.png) [@Annah\_Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Tsero)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/79 "2018-09-20T17:35:39Z")
We don’t represent our _corp_ We represent ourselves ---
**Author:** ![Ethan\_Meklan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ethan_meklan/32/509257_2.png) [@Ethan\_Meklan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ethan_Meklan)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/80 "2018-09-20T17:36:51Z")
[Annah Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Tsero) this is not a court of law, I don’t care. Away with you. ---
**Author:** ![z0rberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/z0rberg/32/29223_2.png) [@z0rberg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/z0rberg)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/81 "2018-09-20T17:36:59Z")
> [@Ethan\_Meklan](#): > > Well if one person in your corp sets the precedent of harassment what do you expect me to say? i’m expectin’ ya to understand that one doesn’t necessarily define the many. i had no idea ya’rr so super sensitive. now i don’t know what’s going on and why’s that the case, but i sure as ■■■■ hope you’ll stay away from 99% of the game, ‘cause it’s lookin’ like ya couldn’t possibly handle it. I’m just happy the world isn’t yet fully censoring itself for the few people who think they’re more important than all the others just because they can’t handle their own feelings and refuse to seek therapy. So just so we’re clear here, mate: you ain’t generalising, and i ain’t angry. all good, have a nice day. ---
**Author:** ![Buoytender\_Bob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buoytender_bob/32/374377_2.png) [@Buoytender\_Bob](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buoytender_Bob)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/82 "2018-09-20T17:38:47Z")
While the clarification of the rules is important for future enforcement/penalties, the problem still remains in CCP’s enforcement of their stated policies. Despite repeated reports and evidence of botting, their (CCP’s) response has been uneven or nonexistent. Ditto in regards to harassment issues before this announcement. Until CCP combines equal and effective enforcement to its stated policies, today’s announcement represents little more than a corporate CYA boilerplate statement. ---
**Author:** ![Dregoth\_Urik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dregoth_urik/32/161209_2.png) [@Dregoth\_Urik](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dregoth_Urik)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/policy-update-real-life-threats-harassment/107861/83 "2018-09-20T17:38:58Z")
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