# Political Spam

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/political-spam/250123>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [June 19, 2020, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/political-spam/250123 "2020-06-19T18:17:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/political-spam/250123/21 "2020-06-19T21:29:49Z")

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> [@Kira\_Direll](#):
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> Whoops, since when? I left the game for a long time, but I do not remember Devs or GMs being this petty/political?

It’s definitely noticeable recently that CCP may in theory ban all political discussion but their enforcement is heavily skewed towards certain topics and is obviously driven by more than just a desire to have a politics-free place to chat.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/political-spam/250123/22 "2020-06-19T21:31:18Z")

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> [@Nana\_Skalski](#):
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> I dont know if its autlawed. Just seen one and lost stratios because couldnt get back to the gate when webbed.
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> But I got that loot I was looking for few hours later jumping other gate. 🥳

Get your align timer under 2 seconds, and you can never be tackled (without interdiction that is). Always carry a travel fit with you in low-sec.

And when you warp to out-gates in systems that are camped, do it from a different angle to avoid smartbombers.

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**Author:** ![Zoiie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zoiie/32/292363_2.png) [@Zoiie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zoiie)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/political-spam/250123/23 "2020-06-19T21:32:28Z")

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Rens, well, since nobody goes there due to terrible routes

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/political-spam/250123/24 "2020-06-19T21:32:50Z")

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Soon, we might **have** to.

:V

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/political-spam/250123/25 "2020-06-19T21:36:28Z")

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We don’t usually allow politic talk to 2 reasons. First, it’s because this is a spaceship game, and we like to keep it that way. The second is that most any time a political thread has been open for more than 5 posts, they start getting disruptive and break rules. This is why we don’t do politics.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/political-spam/250123/26 "2020-06-19T21:39:23Z")

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> [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](#):
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> don’t do politics

Just say No to Politics, kids

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**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/political-spam/250123/27 "2020-06-19T21:40:48Z")

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> [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](#):
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> We don’t usually allow politic talk to 2 reasons.

Well, two openly admitted reasons and a third open secret: that certain subjects are not permitted to be discussed because they might risk certain business relationships.

> First, it’s because this is a spaceship game, and we like to keep it that way.

Unfortunately this is a position most commonly held by privileged people who benefit from the status quo and want to keep it that way even at a cost to others. Politics _always_ comes up, and “we don’t talk about politics” is itself a political position. The only question is whether dissenting voices are permitted, or if the people who agree with you are the only ones permitted to speak.

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**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/political-spam/250123/28 "2020-06-19T21:41:59Z")

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I’ll refer you to rule 2 and bold the relevant part:

### **2.**  **Specifically restricted content.**

EVE Online holds ESRB Teen and PEGI 12 ratings. All content posted to the EVE Online forums must be teen rated.

In addition to this, the EVE Online forums are not for discussion of real life current affairs, news, politics or religion. Discussion should revolve around EVE Online and its community.

For these reasons, specific content is prohibited on the EVE Online forums. These are:

- Pornography
- Profanity
- Real Money Trading (RMT)
- Discussion of Warnings & Bans
- Discussion of Moderation
- Private communications with CCP
- In-Game Bugs & Exploits
- Real World Religion  
\*\*\* Real World Politics\*\*
- Content that distorts the forum layout

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/political-spam/250123/29 "2020-06-19T21:45:36Z")

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Reasonable people dont talk about politics when there is free stuff to grab from abandoned citadels. 🥳

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**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/political-spam/250123/30 "2020-06-19T21:46:25Z")

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> [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](#):
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> I’ll refer you to rule 2 and bold the relevant part:

Well yes, everyone knows that this is the rule you (inconsistently) enforce. The question is _why_ you have that rule, who benefits from having it, and whether you should change it.

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**Author:** ![Xiombarg\_Ohmsford](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xiombarg_ohmsford/32/172425_2.png) [@Xiombarg\_Ohmsford](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xiombarg_Ohmsford)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/political-spam/250123/31 "2020-06-19T21:53:57Z")

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Please clear the space thats all i’m asking fly safe fellow capsuleers o7.

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**Author:** ![Sideways\_Bottomsup](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sideways_bottomsup/32/194490_2.png) [@Sideways\_Bottomsup](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sideways_Bottomsup)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/political-spam/250123/32 "2020-06-19T22:24:34Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> Really? I was under the impression CCP outlawed it.

I’m reasonably sure that’s true; or at least used to be. Way, waaaaaay back, when every gate had a smattering of strategic cans around it.

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**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/political-spam/250123/33 "2020-06-19T22:42:52Z")

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The only politics that have any place in EVE are the amarr/minmatar caldari/gallente relations. If I want to see or hear about real world politics, I’ll watch the news…

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**Author:** ![Sideways\_Bottomsup](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sideways_bottomsup/32/194490_2.png) [@Sideways\_Bottomsup](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sideways_Bottomsup)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/political-spam/250123/34 "2020-06-19T22:45:30Z")

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> [@QuakeGod](#):
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> amarr/minmatar caldari/gallente

You forgot the Triggerati! We just have to figure out WTF their politics _are_ first, but I’m sure they’ll be well fleshed out and jolly interesting.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/political-spam/250123/35 "2020-06-19T22:45:32Z")

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> [@QuakeGod](#):
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> If I want to see or hear about real world politics, I’ll watch the news…

Wouldnt you prefer something informative and accurate?

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 11:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/political-spam/250123/36 "2020-06-19T23:34:57Z")

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> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#):
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> Politics _always_ comes up, and “we don’t talk about politics” is itself a political position. The only question is whether dissenting voices are permitted, or if the people who agree with you are the only ones permitted to speak.

This is pretty much a 100% spot-on observation.

I’ve seen threads in which Orange Man got mocked and nothing happened, and I’ve seen threads in which Honey Munchkin was mocked that were locked 3 minutes later with warnings issued.

I _truly_ wouldn’t mind the “no politics” rule if it was objectively enforced, but the reality is that it only applies to one specific government. And it’s like that _everywhere_, actually. CCP, Steam, Epic, Blizzard, are all equally guilty of selling out their home countries’ democratic ideals for a few extra bucks in their stock values.

Well, that’s all I’m going to say on this, for now. I don’t want to be noticed and given a perma-ban for “disrupting the harmony” or whatever.

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**Author:** ![zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zazzmatazz_xu/32/451037_2.png) [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zazzmatazz_Xu)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 11:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/political-spam/250123/37 "2020-06-19T23:44:18Z")

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> [@Xiombarg\_Ohmsford](#):
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> spammed with containers

In jita, spam of MD is the same as spam in local, they don’t touch that, doubtful they will touch this, it would be a simple fix of banning the person or group but that is too leftist so it won’t happen.

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/political-spam/250123/38 "2020-06-19T23:59:11Z")

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I know who the orange guy is, but who the hell is Honey Munchkin?

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2020, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/political-spam/250123/39 "2020-06-20T00:07:55Z")

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Oh, bother.

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**Author:** ![Spruillo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spruillo/32/399314_2.png) [@Spruillo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spruillo)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2020, 1:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/political-spam/250123/40 "2020-06-20T01:22:12Z")

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Once everyone has the proper approved opinions on any given issue, it’s no longer politics, it’s just light hearted banter.

Any dissent and you simply shut all further conversation down with “Found the …” followed by further steps if necessary.

You can probably find current and further instruction on handling situations like this during your regular perusal of [Teen Vogue.](http://www.teenvogue.com/story/who-is-karl-marx/)

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