# Porpoise Gets Shafted

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/porpoise-gets-shafted/384950>\
**Category:** PvE Ships & Modules\
**Created:** [November 18, 2022, 3:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/porpoise-gets-shafted/384950 "2022-11-18T03:52:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Alexandra\_Martell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexandra_martell/32/495877_2.png) [@Alexandra\_Martell](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexandra_Martell)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/porpoise-gets-shafted/384950/21 "2022-11-18T20:58:36Z")

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Except the Orca already does Ice. So are you saying they should remove it? In that case Rorqs should be allowed in HS for the Ice.

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/porpoise-gets-shafted/384950/22 "2022-11-18T21:00:43Z")

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> [@Alexandra\_Martell](#):
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> So are you saying they should remove it? In that case Rorqs should be allowed in HS for the Ice.

Yes I am saying they should remove it. But to keep the game logical and consistent they should ban all capitals from High Sec, including the Orca and Freighters.

This is very consistent outcome.

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**Author:** ![Alexandra\_Martell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexandra_martell/32/495877_2.png) [@Alexandra\_Martell](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexandra_Martell)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/porpoise-gets-shafted/384950/23 "2022-11-18T21:02:28Z")

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Never gonna happen. Hahahaha no freighters in HS. Ahh good one.

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/porpoise-gets-shafted/384950/24 "2022-11-18T21:09:50Z")

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Ah, bummer.

I guess “Hahaha no Ice compression on Porpoise, good one” is in order?

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**Author:** ![zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zazzmatazz_xu/32/451037_2.png) [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zazzmatazz_Xu)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/porpoise-gets-shafted/384950/25 "2022-11-18T21:13:49Z")

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> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> not being able to play the game afk while making isk and watching netflix

Honestly, this is a level of absurdity I am almost compelled not to even bother, but here it goes, the roids in high sec are just crumbs, being afk isn’t even an option due to the minimal material available, the isk per hour is laughable and I can’t even imagine why you would flaunt that as something to make a point, even T-0 abyssals pay more per hour.

You may have a computer capable of running eve and watching videos not everyone does, my computer still runs a Nvidia 730.

There is no point in even in trying to make others that are incapable of being more than one dimensional in their thoughts consider others right to be, my problem is I continue to have faith in others that a light will go on, I am the one that can’t seem to break that way of thought and get forever stuck with utter brokenness.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2022, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/porpoise-gets-shafted/384950/26 "2022-11-18T22:08:59Z")

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> [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](#):
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> Honestly, this is a level of absurdity I am almost compelled not to even bother, but here it goes, the roids in high sec are just crumbs, being afk isn’t even an option due to the minimal material available,

And as you were typing this, I was bumping afk orcas.

Nice try tho.

> [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](#):
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> You may have a computer capable of running eve and watching videos not everyone does, my computer still runs a Nvidia 730.

This is a red herring and has nothing to do with the argument.

Not my problem you have a potato. Should have thought about that before purchasing your $1,400 iPhone 14 to watch netflix on while you mine on your potato laptop.

> [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](#):
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> There is no point in even in trying to make others that are incapable of being more than one dimensional in their thoughts

Ad hominem eh? Well anyone who knows how to argue knows that once the name calling starts, the person resorting to using it lost the argument.

Sorry you are having an emotional meltdown around this. Perhaps taking a step back and realizing that it is, after all a videogame. And recognizing that I have absolutely no power, or authority to implement any in game changes, so you don’t need to worry about anything.

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**Author:** ![Nujenif\_Talvanen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nujenif_talvanen/32/433113_2.png) [@Nujenif\_Talvanen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nujenif_Talvanen)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/porpoise-gets-shafted/384950/27 "2022-11-19T00:12:17Z")

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I do want an ice compression Caldari Navy Hookbill. I don’t know why they shafted it by not giving it compression, I mean it even has Glacial Drift!

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**Author:** ![Nujenif\_Talvanen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nujenif_talvanen/32/433113_2.png) [@Nujenif\_Talvanen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nujenif_Talvanen)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 12:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/porpoise-gets-shafted/384950/28 "2022-11-19T00:14:00Z")

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Whose a botter? 😛  
Mine a botter?

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**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/porpoise-gets-shafted/384950/29 "2022-11-19T12:02:55Z")

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> [@Io\_Koval](#):
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> Yes I am saying they should remove it. But to keep the game logical and consistent they should ban all capitals from High Sec, including the Orca and Freighters.

I absolutely support. I’d even go way more far.

Highsec should be nothing but an entry-level-gameplay area, teaching players how the fundamentals of the multpiple ways to play the game work in a relative secure area. Then showing them the paths they could take to wealth and fame, in Low, 0.0 or WH.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/porpoise-gets-shafted/384950/30 "2022-11-19T15:13:40Z")

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> [@Io\_Koval](#):
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> Yes I am saying they should remove it. But to keep the game logical and consistent they should ban all capitals from High Sec, including the Orca and Freighters.
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> This is very consistent outcome.

100% on board with this.  
No capitals, whatsoever, in highsec. To keep everything balanced.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/porpoise-gets-shafted/384950/31 "2022-11-19T15:20:37Z")

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> [@Syzygium](#):
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> Highsec should be nothing but an entry-level-gameplay area, teaching players how the fundamentals of the multpiple ways to play the game work in a relative secure area. Then showing them the paths they could take to wealth and fame, in Low, 0.0 or WH.

Then after 60 days, they are locked out of high sec. All assets and ships are magically teleported to a random low sec station if the player failed to move themselves out within that time frame. We need to keep high sec absolutely safe for the noobs.

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**Author:** ![zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zazzmatazz_xu/32/451037_2.png) [@zazzmatazz\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zazzmatazz_Xu)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2022, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/porpoise-gets-shafted/384950/32 "2022-11-19T16:49:29Z")

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> [@Syzygium](#):
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> Highsec should be nothing but an entry-level-gameplay area

It is, and nerfs continue, also should note that the Trav also turn systems essentially into low/null systems, systems get blocked, longer jumps getting funneled to obvious gank choke points in order to short cut those longer jumps, etc.

> [@Syzygium](#):
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> I’d even go way more far.

I honestly wish CCP would just drop sec status all together, it should be a complete chaos and order brought by the players for players, only then will the real “hardcore” players be sorted out…oh wait, the blue donut problem is going to just get worse isn’t it.

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/porpoise-gets-shafted/384950/33 "2023-02-17T16:49:39Z")

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