# Potential Solitude gate suggestions, and a plea to maintain the region's uniqueness

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/potential-solitude-gate-suggestions-and-a-plea-to-maintain-the-regions-uniqueness/308339>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [April 28, 2021, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/potential-solitude-gate-suggestions-and-a-plea-to-maintain-the-regions-uniqueness/308339 "2021-04-28T22:05:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![Clyde\_ElectraGlide](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clyde_electraglide/32/389606_2.png) [@Clyde\_ElectraGlide](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clyde_ElectraGlide)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2021, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/potential-solitude-gate-suggestions-and-a-plea-to-maintain-the-regions-uniqueness/308339/82 "2021-05-05T18:49:12Z")

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He’s trolling. I just reported it as spam. Given the distance between the two and the fact that there’s a hot war that may develop between the two, there’s no way there’s a Caldari gate happening.

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**Author:** ![SOLITUDE\_SAMMY](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solitude_sammy/32/271576_2.png) [@SOLITUDE\_SAMMY](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/SOLITUDE_SAMMY)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 11:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/potential-solitude-gate-suggestions-and-a-plea-to-maintain-the-regions-uniqueness/308339/83 "2021-05-07T23:55:21Z")

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So when is this nerf to solitude and removal of its uniqueness?

Jeez every time you turn around in this game…

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**Author:** ![Nascent3ch0](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nascent3ch0/32/374213_2.png) [@Nascent3ch0](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nascent3ch0)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2021, 4:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/potential-solitude-gate-suggestions-and-a-plea-to-maintain-the-regions-uniqueness/308339/84 "2021-05-08T04:18:45Z")

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Right now all we know is sometime this quadrant.

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**Author:** ![Marjorie\_Taylor\_Greene](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marjorie_taylor_greene/32/272061_2.png) [@Marjorie\_Taylor\_Greene](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marjorie_Taylor_Greene)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 3:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/potential-solitude-gate-suggestions-and-a-plea-to-maintain-the-regions-uniqueness/308339/85 "2021-05-12T03:46:34Z")

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What? Why are they adding so many more gates to solitude region??

for what possible purpose does this solve or help?

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**Author:** ![Clyde\_ElectraGlide](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clyde_electraglide/32/389606_2.png) [@Clyde\_ElectraGlide](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clyde_ElectraGlide)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/potential-solitude-gate-suggestions-and-a-plea-to-maintain-the-regions-uniqueness/308339/86 "2021-05-12T20:07:48Z")

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_Spoilery post btw_

Well, leaks have confirmed that the gate will be from Kenninck in Placid, to Eggheron (HS, part of the Mobrault hisec island).

I can’t really say that I’m ultimately all that satisfied with this result, but at the very least we’ve avoided a direct hisec-hisec connection from like, Dodixie or Alentene or something like that. That being said, it’s still not confirmed whether these ops can be interrupted and the gates eventually not built, so if you’re against this sort of thing due to the fact that apparently mining is a big component in this, I’d recommend buying lots of Catas and parking them in Pochelympe if you would be so inclined.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 8:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/potential-solitude-gate-suggestions-and-a-plea-to-maintain-the-regions-uniqueness/308339/87 "2021-05-12T20:09:53Z")

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So they can pretend to be developing and expanding the game while doing very little.

You know, like the current “Celebrate the history of the (NPC) Empires! (who have changed in no signifigant way in nearly 20 years)”

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/potential-solitude-gate-suggestions-and-a-plea-to-maintain-the-regions-uniqueness/308339/88 "2021-05-12T20:16:57Z")

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> [@Clyde\_ElectraGlide](#):
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> the fact that apparently mining is a big component in this

So this whole thing is literally CCP going “hello friendly PvEers! would you like to have even **more** safe space to PvE in? well you’re in luck, because if you **do lots of PvE** in order to **make a bar move from left to right** , then we will open up even **more** high security space for you to do **more** PvE!”

Once again, while something like 95% of existing high-sec being almost entirely unused.

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**Author:** ![Clyde\_ElectraGlide](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clyde_electraglide/32/389606_2.png) [@Clyde\_ElectraGlide](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clyde_ElectraGlide)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/potential-solitude-gate-suggestions-and-a-plea-to-maintain-the-regions-uniqueness/308339/89 "2021-05-12T20:22:51Z")

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Also, and this is just an offhand thing, in the same constellation that Eggheron is in, there’s a system called Toustain.

There’s also a lowsec gate being built to Stain.

TOuSTAIN

Can’t believe CCP didn’t use that one instead.

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**Author:** ![Ashterothi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ashterothi/32/459299_2.png) [@Ashterothi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ashterothi)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/potential-solitude-gate-suggestions-and-a-plea-to-maintain-the-regions-uniqueness/308339/90 "2021-05-12T21:05:50Z")

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The gate is in lowsec, the systems around it are going to be lowsec. This means you should be able to disrupt people running the sites to complete the gates.

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**Author:** ![Marjorie\_Taylor\_Greene](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marjorie_taylor_greene/32/272061_2.png) [@Marjorie\_Taylor\_Greene](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marjorie_Taylor_Greene)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/potential-solitude-gate-suggestions-and-a-plea-to-maintain-the-regions-uniqueness/308339/91 "2021-05-12T21:05:59Z")

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LOL

so literally this isnt CCP adding more gates from one downtime to the next via code it is some player driven thing where you mine like there is no tomorrow and donate/deliver to the gate foreman??

and is it time based what if not enough ore gets delivered by XX date? This gameplay goes away forever or do they try again down the road until the gate gets built?

where the heck is this even properly documented/laid out

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/potential-solitude-gate-suggestions-and-a-plea-to-maintain-the-regions-uniqueness/308339/92 "2021-05-12T21:10:26Z")

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Yes. And no matter what players do, CCP will still mirror the China server because they don’t want to fork their development, and over there they’re bound to do what the politburo tells them anyway.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/potential-solitude-gate-suggestions-and-a-plea-to-maintain-the-regions-uniqueness/308339/93 "2021-05-12T21:11:28Z")

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> [@Marjorie\_Taylor\_Greene](#):
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> player driven thing

No such animal found.

See: Pochven; Creation of

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**Author:** ![Marjorie\_Taylor\_Greene](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marjorie_taylor_greene/32/272061_2.png) [@Marjorie\_Taylor\_Greene](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marjorie_Taylor_Greene)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/potential-solitude-gate-suggestions-and-a-plea-to-maintain-the-regions-uniqueness/308339/94 "2021-05-12T21:17:29Z")

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Can combine these new gates with this: [Nullification and WCS Updates – testing has begun! | EVE Online](https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/nullification-and-wcs-updates-testing-has-begun)

Gatecamps return in the new action packed thriller.

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**Author:** ![Clyde\_ElectraGlide](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clyde_electraglide/32/389606_2.png) [@Clyde\_ElectraGlide](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clyde_ElectraGlide)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 9:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/potential-solitude-gate-suggestions-and-a-plea-to-maintain-the-regions-uniqueness/308339/95 "2021-05-12T21:18:46Z")

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Yeah, it’s just that Eggheron seems like such a random system to use from, for the most part, both an IC and OOC perspective.

The only reasoning I can think of as to why CCP would have chosen it is that it’s the closest Solitude system on the map to Kenninck, but given other gate connections that’ll be happening as a part of this event, I don’t see why that has to be a barrier for gate considerations.

My original suggestion of using [Solitude - Babirmoult - DOTLAN :: EveMaps](https://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/Babirmoult) came from both the OOC perspective of keeping the large hi-sec area of Solitude a decent amount of jumps away from the greater blob of hi-sec space, so for instance, it would be a 14-jump journey from Stacmon to Yvelet in comparison to the current 15-jump one from Bherdasopt to Yvelet. IC, I feel like it can be interpreted from the large amount of belts in the system, and the fact that Material Acquisition, the biggest corporate player in the region, has many of their high ranking agents in their station there, that it is an important system that likely has a lot of MA/Quafe infrastructure set up there, to the point where Quafe would have a vested interest in seeing more traffic through the system. Could be some lore threads there where Quafe helps fund the establishment of those gates too. I’m not sure how much President Aguard plays in to her Jin-Mei background, but since IIRC Quafe is based out of Lirsautton, there’d be potential for something there.

Even if they wanted to use Mobrault as a destination, I feel like one of the lowsec systems there would have been a better choice as well. Straloin because there’s also a lot of MA stations there, and Toustain, if only because of how funny the name sounds in regards to what they’re doing in Stain. I feel like CCP could have done a lot worse in where they chose their gates for this, but I’m ultimately still irked with what they’re going for with this.

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**Author:** ![Ashterothi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ashterothi/32/459299_2.png) [@Ashterothi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ashterothi)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/potential-solitude-gate-suggestions-and-a-plea-to-maintain-the-regions-uniqueness/308339/96 "2021-05-12T21:35:33Z")

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The idea being is gate connections are not “chosen” they are “found” based on supporting star topology.

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**Author:** ![Clyde\_ElectraGlide](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clyde_electraglide/32/389606_2.png) [@Clyde\_ElectraGlide](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clyde_ElectraGlide)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/potential-solitude-gate-suggestions-and-a-plea-to-maintain-the-regions-uniqueness/308339/97 "2021-05-12T21:44:07Z")

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Sure, but that’s something that CCP could mess with to find a solution that suits whatever they’re going for, right? Which is why I mention the Caldari and Minmatar gates, because it seems to me like there’s underlying goals in them wanting a certain connection, but even then, the systems they’re using for it, like the Caldari gate for instance, seem strange to me from a distance perspective as well.

Maybe Eggheron doesn’t have the supporting star topology, but a star near to it does, and that star also happens to have other IC threads that could spin off of it as well.

Perhaps it wouldn’t then be a situation where Quafe lobbies to have a connection to a system they have infrastructure in because they can, but rather, the system that ends up working for the Federation from a topographical perspective also has MA infrastructure within. Just seems like there’d be more potential for storylines there than somewhere like Eggheron.

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**Author:** ![Wombat\_4\_Combat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wombat_4_combat/32/273063_2.png) [@Wombat\_4\_Combat](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wombat_4_Combat)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 7:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/potential-solitude-gate-suggestions-and-a-plea-to-maintain-the-regions-uniqueness/308339/98 "2021-05-14T19:02:35Z")

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Solitude is full of risk averse bears playing a single player EVE scenario.and finally CCP Rattari and Hilmar have done something.

A minimum of at least 3 more gates to Solitude should be opened after the first one to facilitate traffic from other pvpers and content creators like Safetty into the island.

Thanks CCP

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**Author:** ![Nascent3ch0](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nascent3ch0/32/374213_2.png) [@Nascent3ch0](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nascent3ch0)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/potential-solitude-gate-suggestions-and-a-plea-to-maintain-the-regions-uniqueness/308339/99 "2021-05-14T19:07:44Z")

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Saying this in two threads does not make it true. Look at the Killboard for Anckee and Straloin. There’s plenty of pvp in Solitude and there’s nothing stopping more hunters from moving in.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/potential-solitude-gate-suggestions-and-a-plea-to-maintain-the-regions-uniqueness/308339/100 "2021-05-14T19:17:08Z")

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> [@Wombat\_4\_Combat](#):
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> Solitude is full of risk averse bears playing a single player EVE scenario.and finally CCP Rattari and Hilmar have done something.
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> A minimum of at least 3 more gates to Solitude should be opened after the first one to facilitate traffic from other pvpers and content creators like Safetty into the island.
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> Thanks CCP

Did you get banned on @Ahokastoh_Uta or something?

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**Author:** ![Wombat\_4\_Combat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wombat_4_combat/32/273063_2.png) [@Wombat\_4\_Combat](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wombat_4_Combat)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2021, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/potential-solitude-gate-suggestions-and-a-plea-to-maintain-the-regions-uniqueness/308339/101 "2021-05-14T19:35:39Z")

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It will be great when many more gates come in to help bring content to the single player island areas.

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