# Praxis for minning or Rokh 8 lassers **URL:** \ **Category:** PvE Ships & Modules\ **Tags:** pve\ **Created:** [May 27, 2019, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/praxis-for-minning-or-rokh-8-lassers/162278 "2019-05-27T17:28:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tahale](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tahale/32/472038_2.png) [@Tahale](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tahale)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2019, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/praxis-for-minning-or-rokh-8-lassers/162278/1 "2019-05-27T17:28:11Z")
hi guys and girls, inthe case of an Alpha that cant use a mining barge ship what will be the better option in terms of “yield amount / minute” for mining ORE = praxis full mining fitted ? Rokh with 8 miner lasers ? or venture with its bonuses ? or another BS ship ? ---
**Author:** ![General\_Wulfen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/general_wulfen/32/180737_2.png) [@General\_Wulfen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/General_Wulfen)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2019, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/praxis-for-minning-or-rokh-8-lassers/162278/2 "2019-05-27T17:58:17Z")
Has no idea, but a bs like mineer sounds like very low income, perfect mines in a hulk have low income in somthing like 10M per hour, Think you will get 2/10 of it 😅 Link can maybe help you > **[Mining Rokh FTW](https://00sage00.wordpress.com/2009/07/28/mining-rokh-ftw/)** > > \[Rokh, Mining\] Co-Processor II Co-Processor II Mining Laser Upgrade II Mining Laser Upgrade II Mining Laser Upgrade II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II ML-3 Amphilotite Mining Prob… ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Schweinebacke](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darth_schweinebacke/32/497371_2.png) [@Darth\_Schweinebacke](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darth_Schweinebacke)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2019, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/praxis-for-minning-or-rokh-8-lassers/162278/3 "2019-05-27T18:04:30Z")
A mining Battleship fitted for yield is not even thaaaaaat much behind in that regard. IIRC you can push the yield almost to the level of a proc. The bigger problem for most of them however will be cargo space, which of course can be offset by mining in a fleet that has toys like an orca available. ---
**Author:** ![General\_Wulfen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/general_wulfen/32/180737_2.png) [@General\_Wulfen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/General_Wulfen)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2019, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/praxis-for-minning-or-rokh-8-lassers/162278/4 "2019-05-27T18:06:34Z")
Okay, I didn’t know 15 years ago I have mine last 😆 One Rokh and one Hauler okay setup for a alpha 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Tahale](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tahale/32/472038_2.png) [@Tahale](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tahale)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2019, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/praxis-for-minning-or-rokh-8-lassers/162278/5 "2019-05-27T18:11:32Z")
these rokh Fit is awesome , tiny like a covetor ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Schweinebacke](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darth_schweinebacke/32/497371_2.png) [@Darth\_Schweinebacke](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Darth_Schweinebacke)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2019, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/praxis-for-minning-or-rokh-8-lassers/162278/6 "2019-05-27T18:12:25Z")
Yeah, technically old school jetcan mining would work as well in an all alpha mining fleet. Before anyone jumps in on this… of course it´s not a very efficient way to make ISK and there are much better ways, but it´s still a viable option for people who really don´t want to play as Omega and are into the whole mining thing. In the end back in the old days I actually enjoyed jetcan mining with friends. ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2019, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/praxis-for-minning-or-rokh-8-lassers/162278/7 "2019-05-27T18:20:57Z")
When I first started this game, I tried mining for a bit. The fact that I was using a Badger 2 with one mining laser and a smartbomb cured me of that itch pretty quick. Whether it was the falling asleep waiting forever to fill the hold or getting Concorded because I smartbombed someones drone due to mistaking it for a rat, it just didn’t pan out as a career path I wanted to follow. Not much to do with the OP, but I feel like sharing anecdotes today. ---
**Author:** ![Ms\_Steak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ms_steak/32/168834_2.png) [@Ms\_Steak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ms_Steak)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2019, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/praxis-for-minning-or-rokh-8-lassers/162278/8 "2019-05-27T18:55:35Z")
@Tahale > [@Suggested Mining Ship for a newb?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/suggested-mining-ship-for-a-newb/159832/9): > > That gnosis has lower yield than max yield venture with slightly higher (at best +28% with t2 rigs) cargo capacity. Not worth it, imo. > > > **On the other hand, a little bit pricier Praxis is able to get +100% cargo (with t1 rigs) and higher yield (by about 14.6%)** > > > > [Praxis, Alpha miner] Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerabili… ---
**Author:** ![Tahale](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tahale/32/472038_2.png) [@Tahale](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tahale)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2019, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/praxis-for-minning-or-rokh-8-lassers/162278/9 "2019-05-27T18:57:05Z")
mining in EREBUS ? ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2019, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/praxis-for-minning-or-rokh-8-lassers/162278/10 "2019-05-27T19:23:27Z")
> [@Tahale](#): > > what will be the better option in terms of “yield amount / minute” A mining permit. ---
**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2019, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/praxis-for-minning-or-rokh-8-lassers/162278/11 "2019-05-27T19:30:19Z")
I thought alphas can no longer use bships? Anyway, I think u should stick to venture mining. Even if you could use a bship they are expensive and not worth the investment for mining. Try not to get too caught up in the grind. If you’re lucky you can find an orca pilot too. ---
**Author:** ![General\_Wulfen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/general_wulfen/32/180737_2.png) [@General\_Wulfen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/General_Wulfen)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2019, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/praxis-for-minning-or-rokh-8-lassers/162278/12 "2019-05-27T20:07:58Z")
For what? 10 code, online everyday 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Abruzzi\_Oskold](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abruzzi_oskold/32/279259_2.png) [@Abruzzi\_Oskold](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abruzzi_Oskold)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2019, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/praxis-for-minning-or-rokh-8-lassers/162278/13 "2019-05-27T23:46:38Z")
I’ve mined with a Rokh and virtually needed a dedicated hauler continuously ferrying to the station, so having an Orca near by is very helpful. ---
**Author:** ![erg\_cz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erg_cz/32/392645_2.png) [@erg\_cz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/erg_cz)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/praxis-for-minning-or-rokh-8-lassers/162278/14 "2019-05-28T06:59:10Z")
Praxis. It is very cheap right now, has a large cargohold. It can be fitted so, that it will have better yeld and bigger cargohold, than Venture. Bonus is better tank and combat drones availability (you can tank and kill any ordinary rat in the belt) ---
**Author:** ![Ms\_Steak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ms_steak/32/168834_2.png) [@Ms\_Steak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ms_Steak)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 7:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/praxis-for-minning-or-rokh-8-lassers/162278/15 "2019-05-28T07:02:59Z")
> [@Abruzzi\_Oskold](#): > > I’ve mined with a Rokh and virtually needed a dedicated hauler continuously ferrying to the station, so having an Orca near by is very helpful. This hurdle somewhat alleviated by existence of MTU (in case you dont have Orca nearby), although it makes your mining efforts somewhat vulnerable. ---
**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/praxis-for-minning-or-rokh-8-lassers/162278/16 "2019-05-28T12:28:40Z")
btw a Rokh should not be used by itself. It mins so quickly it should be used alongside an orca - to store the ore. As a solo player I don’t recommend this method of mining - unless someone loans you the battleship. Waste of isk. It will take you a long time to pay back the cost of the ship. ---
**Author:** ![Abruzzi\_Oskold](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abruzzi_oskold/32/279259_2.png) [@Abruzzi\_Oskold](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abruzzi_Oskold)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/praxis-for-minning-or-rokh-8-lassers/162278/17 "2019-05-28T18:48:19Z")
Well, my Rokh was eventually turned into a “Disco BS” in Low Sec… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Tahale](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tahale/32/472038_2.png) [@Tahale](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tahale)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/praxis-for-minning-or-rokh-8-lassers/162278/18 "2019-06-01T14:48:23Z")
Yes, of course, the price is not viable. that is why we talk about the Praxis which is half the average price of a bs (75m only), and the question is not whether it is profitable or not, but that it is debated between the Praxis and the Rokh in this respect in terms of Efficiency . ---
**Author:** ![Markus\_Wulffe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/markus_wulffe/32/138466_2.png) [@Markus\_Wulffe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Markus_Wulffe)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/praxis-for-minning-or-rokh-8-lassers/162278/19 "2019-06-01T15:51:29Z")
> [@Tahale](#): > > but that it is debated between the Praxis and the Rokh in this respect in terms of Efficiency . Get pyfa, fit both ships, tell pyfa to give you the mining yield. Compare yield, cargo and tank/utility and come to your own conclusion. ---
**Author:** ![Vigilant](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vigilant/32/232052_2.png) [@Vigilant](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vigilant)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/praxis-for-minning-or-rokh-8-lassers/162278/20 "2019-06-01T18:56:30Z")
As another person mentioned you pretty much need dedicated haulers for BS mining. As the jet cans need to be grabbed constantly. MTU’s are an option, but people love to suspect shoot them for fun. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/praxis-for-minning-or-rokh-8-lassers/162278.md?page=2)