# Price of Plex - Market intervention Required from CCP **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 10, 2019, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111 "2019-03-10T11:57:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 31
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/618 "2019-04-01T17:48:55Z")
@ISD_Sakimura Cleanup Isle Nine! ---
**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/619 "2019-04-01T18:04:45Z")
Followup question: is the number of duplicate threads an indicator of the IQ of the average EVE player? ---
**Author:** ![Daoden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daoden/32/271841_2.png) [@Daoden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daoden)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/620 "2019-04-01T18:15:48Z")
No just the one guy posting on all his, now alpha, accounts ---
**Author:** ![Traco\_Miritu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/traco_miritu/32/130952_2.png) [@Traco\_Miritu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Traco_Miritu)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/621 "2019-04-01T18:17:45Z")
I sadi it in multiple posts like this multiple times…CCP HAS TO CUT THE ACTUAL PRICE AT HALF AND SET THIS AS THE MAXIMUM PRICE. Problem solved Do this for the whole market…even better… (Market)Control is the keyword her… But some donkeys here think that would be socialism instead of market control… ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/622 "2019-04-01T18:18:47Z")
> [@Is the price of plex a reflection on the health of Eve?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-price-of-plex-a-reflection-on-the-health-of-eve/149841/5): > > Followup question: is the number of duplicate threads an indicator of the IQ of the average EVE player? No, every once in a while a fish jumps out of the Fodder River and posts, then they Flop Around on the Bank for awhile. ---
**Author:** ![CowRocket\_Void](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cowrocket_void/32/189525_2.png) [@CowRocket\_Void](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CowRocket_Void)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/623 "2019-04-01T18:29:17Z")
> [@Is the price of plex a reflection on the health of Eve?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-price-of-plex-a-reflection-on-the-health-of-eve/149841/7): > > But some donkeys here think that would be socialism instead of market control… Capitalism and socialism are the two primary economic systems used to understand the world and the way economies work. Their distinctions are many, but perhaps the fundamental difference between capitalism and socialism lies in the scope of government intervention in the economy. The capitalist economic model relies on free market conditions to drive innovation and wealth creation and regulate corporate behavior; this liberalization of market forces allows for the freedom of choice, resulting in either success or failure. The socialist-based economy incorporates elements of [centralized economic planning](https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/centrally-planned-economy.asp), utilized to ensure conformity and to encourage equality of opportunity and economic outcome. I guess that’s because it is? ---
**Author:** ![Traco\_Miritu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/traco_miritu/32/130952_2.png) [@Traco\_Miritu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Traco_Miritu)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/624 "2019-04-01T18:33:06Z")
There IS no “free market”… nowhere… The goverment is ALWAYS involved in it may it be through tax control for big companies or through direct control… Something like a “free,self regulating market” is just an illusion us hardliners invented to demand an uncontrolled one for maximum profit…we see where this has brought the planet… ---
**Author:** ![JUSTIFIED\_ARROGANCE](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/justified_arrogance/32/263131_2.png) [@JUSTIFIED\_ARROGANCE](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JUSTIFIED_ARROGANCE)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/625 "2019-04-01T18:36:37Z")
> [@Is the price of plex a reflection on the health of Eve?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-price-of-plex-a-reflection-on-the-health-of-eve/149841/1): > > I’d be interested to know some views here on the links between plex price, the earning of isk, the artificial dumping and pumping of plex price etc. The issue that is causing a lot of the problem with PLEX is that it is now the games general currency and it should only do one thing, add 30 days of game time and that is it. If this was all that PLEX could do the price would drop very quickly. ---
**Author:** ![CowRocket\_Void](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cowrocket_void/32/189525_2.png) [@CowRocket\_Void](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/CowRocket_Void)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/626 "2019-04-01T18:51:16Z")
> [@Is the price of plex a reflection on the health of Eve?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-price-of-plex-a-reflection-on-the-health-of-eve/149841/10): > > Something like a “free,self regulating market” is just an illusion U.S hardliners The term _laissez-faire_ likely originated in a meeting that took place around 1681 between powerful French Controller-General of Finances Jean-Baptiste Colbert and a group of French businessmen headed by M. Le Gendre. When the eager mercantilist minister asked how the French state could be of service to the merchants and help promote their commerce, Le Gendre replied simply: “Laissez-nous faire” The Second Continental Congress came together on May 11, 1775. Looks like “US Hardliners” didn’t invent the term, sorry fam ---
**Author:** ![Traco\_Miritu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/traco_miritu/32/130952_2.png) [@Traco\_Miritu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Traco_Miritu)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/627 "2019-04-01T18:53:36Z")
> [@Is the price of plex a reflection on the health of Eve?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-price-of-plex-a-reflection-on-the-health-of-eve/149841/12): > > The term _laissez-faire_ likely originated in a meeting that took place around 1681 between powerful French Controller-General of Finances Jean-Baptiste Colbert and a group of French businessmen headed by M. Le Gendre. When the eager mercantilist minister asked how the French state could be of service to the merchants and help promote their commerce, Le Gendre replied simply: “Laissez-nous faire” > > The Second Continental Congress came together on May 11, 1775. > > Looks like “US Hardliners” didn’t invent the term, sorry fam In what way does this history lesson unvalue my point? ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/628 "2019-04-01T18:56:30Z")
> [@Is the price of plex a reflection on the health of Eve?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-price-of-plex-a-reflection-on-the-health-of-eve/149841/13): > > In what way does this history lesson unvalue my argument? You pretty much ‘unvalue’ your own arguments every time you make them. People point out the simple, self-evident flaws with your simplistic ‘ideas’ and yet you jump on every thread you can to repeat them. Here’s a tip: Repeating the same pointless, obviously broken, unworkable suggestion over and over again does not actually make it work better. It just makes you look unshakeably stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Traco\_Miritu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/traco_miritu/32/130952_2.png) [@Traco\_Miritu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Traco_Miritu)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/629 "2019-04-01T19:04:46Z")
> [@Is the price of plex a reflection on the health of Eve?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-price-of-plex-a-reflection-on-the-health-of-eve/149841/14): > > You pretty much ‘unvalue’ your own arguments every time you make them. People point out the simple, self-evident flaws with your simplistic ‘ideas’ and yet you jump on every thread you can to repeat them. > > Here’s a tip: Repeating the same pointless, obviously broken, unworkable suggestion over and over again does not actually make it work better. It just makes you look unshakeably stupid. This is because i’ve heard no answer which would have refuted my opinion. All that was said were just the same speech bubbles again and again the same argumet why that does not work or this is impossible all over again like programmed in their heads by a 2003 dev. We have 2019 and their programming is way outdated,about time for an update 🙂 Repeating my arguments is my tactic,i hope at least something will stay in their heads,but i fear it will not 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/632 "2019-04-01T19:33:16Z")
> [@Is the price of plex a reflection on the health of Eve?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/is-the-price-of-plex-a-reflection-on-the-health-of-eve/149841/15): > > This is because i’ve heard no answer which would have refuted my opinion. What you actually mean is “I have ignored, been blind to, and otherwise refused to believe anything which points out the stupidity of my suggestion”. People buy Plex for several reasons. To purchase something from the NES shop - which means your simplistic notion, based on nothing but your own preference, would in fact devalue and cut the income CCP receives from anything they sell except subs. Or, to trade for ISK in the game - which means they are only willing to buy Plex when the ISK/Plex return is attractive to them. Make Plex worth very little ISK and no one will buy it, they will simply turn to the RMT market which is bad for players, bad for CCP, good for bots and account hackers. The anti-economics of price fixing has been well known and documented since before you were born: [The Economics of Price Fixing](https://fee.org/articles/the-economics-of-price-fixing/) You can believe anything you want to simply by ignoring all logic and facts… that doesn’t mean your point hasn’t been ‘refuted’. It only means you are willfully blind and/or trolling. ---
**Author:** ![Maekchu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maekchu/32/178692_2.png) [@Maekchu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maekchu)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/634 "2019-04-01T19:42:20Z")
If people would actually argue their opinion, then reading through these threads would be interesting, instead of just slapping in their opinions as facts with no further explanation. Thank you in advance. Also, this should just be merged into [Price of Plex - Market intervention Required from CCP](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111?u=maekchu). Damn, I would be such a great mod. ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/635 "2019-04-01T20:02:08Z")
[Have you considered applying?](https://volunteers.eveonline.com/) ---
**Author:** ![Maekchu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maekchu/32/178692_2.png) [@Maekchu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maekchu)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/636 "2019-04-01T20:07:31Z")
I’m honestly trying to cut down on the time used on the forums 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/isd_dorrim_barstorlode/32/361083_2.png) [@ISD\_Dorrim\_Barstorlode](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ISD_Dorrim_Barstorlode)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/637 "2019-04-01T20:08:10Z")
I can respect that. ❤ ---
**Author:** ![Lena\_Crews](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lena_crews/32/161576_2.png) [@Lena\_Crews](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lena_Crews)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/638 "2019-04-01T20:08:24Z")
The reality is that if you set the price of PLEX to 1 billion pr 500 plex and capped it there… I don’t think there’d be much of a supply of plex for anyone who wanted to use it for anything. The reason the price is going up is that there’s more demand for PLEX than there are people willing to buy it for real money to sell for income in game. That’s at over 2 billion per 500 plex. Lowering and capping the price will decrease the number of people willing to spend 20 bucks on it… and while those who get plex will get it at the lower price… there won’t be much plex to get. Now if you’re talking about lowering the real life cost of plex rather than the isk cost… that will supercharge supply. It would also require a decrease in the subscription cost (otherwise everyone will use plex for their accounts) and seriously impact CCP’s actual business. ---
**Author:** ![Spitfire1938](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/spitfire1938/32/474648_2.png) [@Spitfire1938](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Spitfire1938)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/639 "2019-04-01T20:19:03Z")
Isn’t eve a capitalist economy? ---
**Author:** ![Lena\_Crews](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lena_crews/32/161576_2.png) [@Lena\_Crews](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lena_Crews)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2019, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/640 "2019-04-01T20:35:22Z")
Yes to the purely in-game pieces. PLEX and items that can only be initially bought with PLEX are odd animals because they’re combination of in-game and out of game markets. I suppose it’s still capitalist in a way… but the reality is there is only a single initial supplier of PLEX possible (CCP). That’s not particularly capitalistic in terms of plex… but it is if you consider it under the same umbrella as all other games selling in game currencies for out of game currencies. What that actually indicates though is that the point of control for CCP is the real world price of PLEX… not the price of plex after it enters the game. Some of the people commenting about the in-game price don’t seem to understand that CCP isn’t selling plex in-game for isk… they’re selling it out of game for real world currencies. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111.md?page=30) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111.md?page=32)