# Price of Plex - Market intervention Required from CCP **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 10, 2019, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111 "2019-03-10T11:57:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 44
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 5:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/886 "2019-04-16T05:24:51Z")
i think this guy ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/1/316fcab5f0e277f40a26390adbfe91717986ed29.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/887 "2019-04-16T08:50:44Z")
Many, many stable geniuses… ---
**Author:** ![Lena\_Crews](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lena_crews/32/161576_2.png) [@Lena\_Crews](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lena_Crews)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2019, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/888 "2019-04-16T13:31:22Z")
> [@Matthias\_Ancaladron](#): > > the solution to subs still is and always has been allow 1 character accounts for 5$ a month. main reason i quit 10 years ago before coming back with the sole intent of playing 100% free was because it was pointless to spend 15$ a month on an account where i only needed 1 character. > > the old eve disks you could buy in store with bonus codes would come with like 3-6 months of plex plus bonus items for less than 30$ in store. i get it home and think oh i just bought the game itself as a younger kid only to find out nope it still needs a subscription for some reason. > > you want to increase subs? lower the sub options to not force people in a very expensive 15$ a month slot or let them buy the game up front with no further costs. > look at elder scrolls online, they tried to charge 60 upfront and 15 a month on top of that and the game imploded so quickly its straight up f2p now with no limitations. > > ccp is just punishing the little guy instead of incentivising them to stick around as usual, goonswarm doesnt care about a few hundred mil increase which is a deal breaker for others. I’m not sure this works. Right now it’s 15 dollars for 3 characters but one training. 100% of people would prefer (for the same 15 dollars) to have 3 1-toon accounts that can all be active simultaneously than 1 3-toon account that can’t. While I make use of my other slots as best I can… i would downgrade every account I have to 1-toon accounts if given the option. Maybe move 1 or 2 of the more useful non-main toons on the accounts to separate 1-toon accounts. I think this would be a huge money loser for CCP. ---
**Author:** ![Archaelogist\_Bahiti](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archaelogist_bahiti/32/129554_2.png) [@Archaelogist\_Bahiti](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archaelogist_Bahiti)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/889 "2019-04-19T17:49:41Z")
What happens when pools of botter isk which stems from broken EULA terms allowed “dirty” money to be traded with legit players become found in paper trails leading a few degrees from a botter or RMT account? If I bought plex from a botter with a EULA broken term and sold it is the item supposed to even exist in game by the offending original source? At what end of the paper trail does CCP decide the “isk is washed” and allowed in the game and not. What % of the market is broken EULA transactions from paper trails i wonder :). I know it makes a a new mess of things but if PLEX rise is causing real players to not afford the new 2bil mark due to tainted isk pools I can’t see how its fair to the real player population left. Just some out there perspectives on the botter and RMT eula and broken paper trails. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jian\_Mira](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jian_mira/32/509519_2.png) [@Jian\_Mira](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jian_Mira)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/890 "2019-04-19T20:30:34Z")
I am not sure how CCP can fix the price of Plex unless they flood the market which would then bring down the price of Plex… CCP could raise the price of Isotopes, but i dont think that will happen either! ---
**Author:** ![Natural\_CloneKiller](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natural_clonekiller/32/387890_2.png) [@Natural\_CloneKiller](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natural_CloneKiller)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/891 "2019-04-19T20:36:11Z")
When I started this post I did not think there would have been as much interest as there has been. I’d like to call on ccp’s economic team to comment here or even do a pod cast interview with some of the news groups. Big ask I know but the player base deserves to here from the decision makers within ccp! ---
**Author:** ![Nep-Neps](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nep-neps/32/466874_2.png) [@Nep-Neps](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nep-Neps)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/892 "2019-04-19T20:47:51Z")
What’s wrong with rising plex prices? So we lose a couple of people who sub off plex, no major loss there. ---
**Author:** ![Natural\_CloneKiller](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natural_clonekiller/32/387890_2.png) [@Natural\_CloneKiller](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natural_CloneKiller)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/893 "2019-04-19T21:11:59Z")
I’m all for ccp making money. In fact the more the better as it means they continue to invest in the game. I just think they might make more income if plex was lower. Not sure as we would need to see the economic and financial data. I just see more than a few not playing due to high plex prices. ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/894 "2019-04-19T21:19:35Z")
Just as a bit of historical perspective, I did a bit of digging on past prices for 30 days of EVE sub - based on old game time codes, then the original 30-day Plex, up to 2017 when the new miniPlex were introduced. 2007 - 120M 2009 - 275M 2010 - 350M 2011 - 440M 2012 - 560M 2013 - 600M 2014 - 800M 2015 - 1.1B 2016 - 1B (significant slump to 850M mid-year) 2017 - 1.2B before the switch to miniPlex In pretty much all cases, the year started off with lower price, and rose with some seasonal ups and downs to the highest price in mid-late December. After miniPlex came in, prices went to: 2017 - 1.4B 2018 - 1.5B 2019 - 2B so far ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/895 "2019-04-19T21:30:27Z")
Note that plex has also had its uses magnified over time, especially in the last year or so with alphas and skill injectors ---
**Author:** ![BDVannessa\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bdvannessa_lsg/32/128854_2.png) [@BDVannessa\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BDVannessa_LSG)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/896 "2019-04-19T21:51:14Z")
> [@Natural\_CloneKiller](#): > > ccp’s economic team Today there is no “ccp’s economic team” ---
**Author:** ![Black\_Ambulance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_ambulance/32/48290_2.png) [@Black\_Ambulance](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Ambulance)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/897 "2019-04-19T21:54:46Z")
please listen to this … thank you ---
**Author:** ![BDVannessa\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bdvannessa_lsg/32/128854_2.png) [@BDVannessa\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BDVannessa_LSG)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/898 "2019-04-19T21:56:39Z")
[https://www.adam4eve.eu/commodity.php?typeID=44992®ionID=10000002&avg=0&from=2007-01-01&until=2019-04-19](https://www.adam4eve.eu/commodity.php?typeID=44992®ionID=10000002&avg=0&from=2007-01-01&until=2019-04-19) ---
**Author:** ![BDVannessa\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bdvannessa_lsg/32/128854_2.png) [@BDVannessa\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BDVannessa_LSG)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/899 "2019-04-19T22:02:47Z")
Why would we look at it? It was a long time ago, it is no longer in the CCP… ---
**Author:** ![Black\_Ambulance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/black_ambulance/32/48290_2.png) [@Black\_Ambulance](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Black_Ambulance)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/900 "2019-04-19T22:45:38Z")
he predicted the price of plex to go up over a billion in 2014. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Dread\_Saboteur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dread_saboteur/32/270709_2.png) [@Dread\_Saboteur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dread_Saboteur)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/901 "2019-04-19T22:46:18Z")
Lol they don’t have an economic team but nice thoughts ---
**Author:** ![Dread\_Saboteur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dread_saboteur/32/270709_2.png) [@Dread\_Saboteur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dread_Saboteur)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 11:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/902 "2019-04-19T23:03:07Z")
It is a good assessment of why PLEX is how it is and the man is right there is no right price for PLEX . As long as I or another player is willing to pay more isk for PLEX I’ll get that PLEX and you won’t . At our current rate of development and knowing CCP is no longer making interventions on PLEX market we will easily reach 2.5 bil per PLEX by this year end and 3-3.2 by end of 2020. Fact is there are alot of people who produce enough isk to be comfortable with those prices and quite a few of them also hoard PLEX now than buy it at a later time for more isk/exhausted time. ---
**Author:** ![Nep-Neps](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nep-neps/32/466874_2.png) [@Nep-Neps](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nep-Neps)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 11:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/903 "2019-04-19T23:18:05Z")
Hopefully plex prices keep rising, i’m sitting on 20k rn :parrotwave3: ---
**Author:** ![Dread\_Saboteur](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dread_saboteur/32/270709_2.png) [@Dread\_Saboteur](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dread_Saboteur)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 11:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/904 "2019-04-19T23:19:22Z")
There is no doubt it’ll go up . I’m sitting myself on around 100k and seeking for more.It’s basic function as subscription makes it priceless even if say tomorrow you make plex go from 2 bil to 4 plenty of people will do their best to get it especially if their continued play style depends on it. Only way to drop it’s price is if EVE went full f2p and you bought premium perks with PLEX but it’ll regain it’s current trend after a dramatic drop and some panic ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2019, 10:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/905 "2019-04-20T10:23:31Z")
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