# Price of Plex - Market intervention Required from CCP **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 10, 2019, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111 "2019-03-10T11:57:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 67
**Author:** ![Nep-Neps](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nep-neps/32/466874_2.png) [@Nep-Neps](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nep-Neps)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1359 "2019-04-25T22:32:28Z")
> [@Lugburz](#): > > why are you roaming the forums? To look down on poors who think they deserve to be able to plex with little effort > [@Lugburz](#): > > contradicting yourself there Not really, i’m only implying that even if we ignored sound logic and somehow in your fantasy world plex prices reached a point where nobody at all could purchase plex, the market would quickly recuperate and people would continue buying plex ---
**Author:** ![Nep-Neps](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nep-neps/32/466874_2.png) [@Nep-Neps](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nep-Neps)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1360 "2019-04-25T22:33:03Z")
> [@Lugburz](#): > > but by then new eden will be down active players. Why? Sure, we lose a few poors who can no longer afford to plex but that’s no biggie ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1361 "2019-04-25T22:37:54Z")
> [@Nep-Neps](#): > > we but you dont play, so its not ‘we’ is it? your not involved at all. just some scrub that couldnt afford to play and got tired of only flying atrons. > [@Nep-Neps](#): > > i’m only implying that even if we ignored sound logic implying… if… those are both long words for you; you also seem to appear to be ‘ignoring’ logic almost entirely. You really dont know how markets work either, or at least how they work in the real world because the product actually needs to be sold. You appear to have your lights on but i dont think anyone is actually home. ---
**Author:** ![Nep-Neps](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nep-neps/32/466874_2.png) [@Nep-Neps](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nep-Neps)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1362 "2019-04-25T22:42:41Z")
> [@Lugburz](#): > > but you dont play, so its not ‘we’ is it? your not involved at all. just some scrub that couldnt afford to play and got tired of only flying atrons. Huh, i guess if i’m a poor then i speak for the people. I believe that PLEX prices should only increase > [@Lugburz](#): > > You really dont know how markets work either, or at least how they work in the real world because the product actually needs to be sold. Well, how about this: If you don’t like PLEX prices, don’t buy them? A couple of poors isn’t going to ruin eve ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1363 "2019-04-25T22:43:54Z")
you are special arent you. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1364 "2019-04-25T22:46:17Z")
> [@Bumpy\_Kai](#): > > That is correct, but I don’t see this as a possibility. Simply put I don’t see how they can curb one without affecting the other. The problem is I think there are far, far more people not causing the problem than are. In fact, according to your definitions _you are part of the problem_ (me too). If you define the problem as “multi-boxing” then many EVE players are the problem. And you’ll be cutting off quite a bit of revenues…for some dubious speculative gain? Nope not seeing it. And then there is the issue of people who have spent time getting to a point where they are pretty happy with how thing are going. Suddenly you pull the rug out from under the feet of those players and they might decide…meh not worth it anymore and quit. All based on some speculation that a bunch of players (who probably had a number of alts before they stopped playing) are going to come back? > [@Bumpy\_Kai](#): > > Yea, it is, they can’t keep up. Not even close. How do you know? > [@Bumpy\_Kai](#): > > They’re already doing it. How do yo know. Argument by declamation is not very persuasive. > [@Bumpy\_Kai](#): > > I donoe, goin from 1.3-1.4 bil per 500 plex in Jan (or was it december ? I don’t remember exactly but not very long ago) to 2.5 bil of today is kinda bigger jump. That is not inflation. Seeing one item go up in price is not inflation. That is a price increase. Inflation is when prices overall are increasing…CCP calculates a number of price indices and there is really not much inflation. ---
**Author:** ![Nep-Neps](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nep-neps/32/466874_2.png) [@Nep-Neps](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nep-Neps)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1365 "2019-04-25T22:46:29Z")
I agree 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1366 "2019-04-25T22:49:07Z")
i thought you might… ---
**Author:** ![Nep-Neps](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nep-neps/32/466874_2.png) [@Nep-Neps](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nep-Neps)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1367 "2019-04-25T22:49:36Z")
No reason not to ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1368 "2019-04-25T22:51:55Z")
> [@Teckos\_Pech](#): > > declamation ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/d/0d78203086320ee313dad6577183aa9001a4cac7.jpeg) tbvh… ---
**Author:** ![Nep-Neps](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nep-neps/32/466874_2.png) [@Nep-Neps](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nep-Neps)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1369 "2019-04-25T22:53:43Z")
For some reason, i feel like you would personally benefit if plex prices were lower, and perhaps that’s why you’re trying so hard to argue that plex prices should in fact be lower? ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 10:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1370 "2019-04-25T22:56:40Z")
It is when you declaim something. Example, “EVE is not a free market!” That is declaiming your views. It is not an argument. Another example, “Excavator drones are seriously messed up!” Again, declaiming one’s view but not an actual argument. An actual argument would be something like, “Excavator drones are seriously messed up! They are letting people mine so much the price of minerals has dropped dramatically.” ---
**Author:** ![Nep-Neps](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nep-neps/32/466874_2.png) [@Nep-Neps](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nep-Neps)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1371 "2019-04-25T22:58:26Z")
Don’t bother, if you keep going he’ll run out of arguments and start attacking you directly in a bid to continue to be able to plex himself every month ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1372 "2019-04-25T22:58:46Z")
You’re american aren’t you? Its not the way you would use it in English. ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1373 "2019-04-25T22:59:36Z")
> [@Nep-Neps](#): > > Don’t bother, if you keep going he’ll run out of arguments and start attacking you directly in a bid to continue to be able to plex himself every month Too late. Just mock him at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 11:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1374 "2019-04-25T23:00:53Z")
Nep neps can only say #nopoors i believe, asking him to actually mock people is probably more than he can handle. but just because… > **[Declaim definition and meaning | Collins English Dictionary](https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/declaim)** > > Declaim definition: If you declaim , you speak dramatically, as if you were acting in a theatre . | Meaning, pronunciation, translations and examples ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/9/b/9b70c1f74f5f75a91560dc60e99f7be530a582bf.png) ---
**Author:** ![Teckos\_Pech](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/teckos_pech/32/375283_2.png) [@Teckos\_Pech](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Teckos_Pech)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 11:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1375 "2019-04-25T23:03:06Z")
> 1. to [protest](https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/protest) (against) loudly and [publicly](https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/publicly) Pretty much most of your posts… ---
**Author:** ![Nep-Neps](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nep-neps/32/466874_2.png) [@Nep-Neps](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nep-Neps)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1376 "2019-04-25T23:05:52Z")
Yeah, i’m a nice individual who doesn’t mock people because i’m not mean 🙂 It’s not my fault you’re poor, but i will look down on you for being poor 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1377 "2019-04-25T23:05:59Z")
Yeh i really wouldnt use it the way you’re trying too > **[declamation | Definition of declamation in English by Oxford Dictionaries](https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/declamation)** > > Definition of declamation - the action or art of declaiming Perhaps there is some confusion as to what rhetorical means… or the word ‘speech’? ---
**Author:** ![Autocrator\_Askiras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/autocrator_askiras/32/298961_2.png) [@Autocrator\_Askiras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Autocrator_Askiras)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1378 "2019-04-25T23:06:38Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > This change you are suggesting seems to heavily benefit those who have currently stockpiled a vast amount of PLEX or stores of ISK. By causing such great reduction in ISK faucets, you’re giving all of the players who already have lots of wealth even greater power. IMO the impact would be much harder for the big PLEX consumers, that are not RL poors who can not subscribe, but isk farmers, SP farmers, botters. Even if big PLEX consumers have a huge amount of PLEX stockpiled most of them would not keep buying-speculating, and later they will be forced to sell or consume less. All this probably would happen fast. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111.md?page=66) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111.md?page=68)