# Price of Plex - Market intervention Required from CCP

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [March 10, 2019, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111 "2019-03-10T11:57:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![BOINGBOINGBOINGBOING\_BOINGOBBLEOI](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/boingboingboingboing_boingobbleoi/32/203433_2.png) [@BOINGBOINGBOINGBOING\_BOINGOBBLEOI](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BOINGBOINGBOINGBOING_BOINGOBBLEOI)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 5:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1563 "2019-06-20T05:09:21Z")

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> [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#):
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> Guys…
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> Get out of your weird 1st world bubble. $15.00 might be a months pay in some countries but internet access is practically free.

You’re right, I was mistaken. It’s up to CCP to lower the cost of their service until everyone in the world can afford it. Doesn’t even matter if they make a profit or not (it’s not like ccp is a business or anything)  
Anything less is morally unacceptable isn’t it? Why should some people have more and others less?

That’s bs. Learn a thing or two about society and get off your high horse. Unless you want to start a communist regime, then businesses are allowed to make profit, people are allowed to earn different wages, and democracy is not the devil.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1564 "2019-06-20T05:29:14Z")

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> [@BOINGBOINGBOINGBOING\_BOINGOBBLEOI](#):
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> Why should some people have more and others less?

The part that I don’t get is that you can do SO much with an Alpha yet it’s still not good enough and people find something to ■■■■■ about…man I wish I had Alphas years ago…

I also think to games like WoT or WT and the hours I’ve played them mostly for “free”…I don’t know if this is the golden age of online video games but what there is now compared to (even just) 10 years ago…I shake my head…(ps I know there are a lot of other issues with OL-MP these days but please let me leave the rosey glasses on for a bit longer…grandpa needs it)

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**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 5:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1565 "2019-06-20T05:45:31Z")

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> [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#):
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> The point is that they are being sold on the idea that it’s a F2P

Some were saying this since the Alpha: EvE _will be_ called F2P. CCP supporters were like “NO, No! Alpha is just a trial with different limitations!”.

Look who was right in the end.

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**Author:** ![xxxTRUSTxxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xxxtrustxxx/32/285949_2.png) [@xxxTRUSTxxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xxxTRUSTxxx)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1566 "2019-06-20T10:10:55Z")

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the players didn’t push this, CCP did. it wasn’t the players that started to say play for free it was CCP.  
what the players did next was exactly what they always do, this object is worth a lot of ISK, drive the price of said object up, in this case it’s plex, funny how ya never see a thread created to bang on about how expensive a super is in recent times compared to yesteryear.

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**Author:** ![March\_rabbit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/march_rabbit/32/453160_2.png) [@March\_rabbit](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/March_rabbit)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1567 "2019-06-20T10:17:11Z")

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I don’t really care who has started it and who’s to blame.

I only want to say that it was obvious right from the start how it will end.

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**Author:** ![xxxTRUSTxxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xxxtrustxxx/32/285949_2.png) [@xxxTRUSTxxx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/xxxTRUSTxxx)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1568 "2019-06-20T10:21:13Z")

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so working as intended 👀

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1569 "2019-06-20T16:23:11Z")

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Did you take a straw man class in school? You are pretty good at it.

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1570 "2019-06-20T18:54:09Z")

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> [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#):
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> Did you take a straw man class in school?

Please stop insulting people and dodging the issue.  
Can you provide a simple one sentence argument?

“CCP needs to intervene and reduce the PLEX prices in game because . . .”

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**Author:** ![Natural\_CloneKiller](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natural_clonekiller/32/387890_2.png) [@Natural\_CloneKiller](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natural_CloneKiller)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2019, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1571 "2019-06-21T00:07:09Z")

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Plex Prices are too high!

Just had a group of mates look to re-join the game. They took one look at the price of plex and could not make it work.

Shame.

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**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2019, 12:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1572 "2019-06-21T00:08:09Z")

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Maybe your mates should get better jobs if they can’t afford about $15 a month

Shame.

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**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2019, 12:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1573 "2019-06-21T00:08:51Z")

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> [@Natural\_CloneKiller](#):
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> Just had a group of mates look to re-join the game. They took one look at the price of plex and could not make it work

Good! Keep bad players out!! We don’t need more complainers!!

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**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2019, 12:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1574 "2019-06-21T00:15:09Z")

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> [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#):
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> The point is that they are being sold on the idea that it’s a F2P and it isn’t.

Add so? This applies to 99.99999% of all things that are “free”.

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**Author:** ![Dextrome\_Thorphan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dextrome_thorphan/32/354966_2.png) [@Dextrome\_Thorphan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dextrome_Thorphan)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2019, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1575 "2019-06-21T11:09:05Z")

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Oh I see, that does make sense - I didn’t know eve was being advertised as a F2P game these days (I’ve been gone for a couple years)

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**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2019, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1576 "2019-06-21T11:39:53Z")

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so… people are quitting because content (specifically timers and small gang) atm is pretty crap, the wardec system is worse than before and plex is too high.

Cant think of a single reason why ccp might want to intervene…

Plex price is though, in reality, not worth sh#t with the game being the way it is atm.

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**Author:** ![Sky\_Marshal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sky_marshal/32/248701_2.png) [@Sky\_Marshal](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sky_Marshal)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2019, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1577 "2019-06-21T13:12:54Z")

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It is funny to see some people who judge the quality of a player by his hourly wages… funny and pitiful.

PLEX are too high… mostly because players changed. We -old generation- will pay our monthly subscriptions and/or pay in ISK without too much complains, but the new generation of players is born in the free-to-play era. For them, it sound more normal to pay with ingame money (which means exchanging real money by ingame time) but the actual price of PLEX don’t permit that.

We can always talk about the lack of “content” but EVE is mosly a player-generated content system. Less players = less content. So saying that “bad players” (with low wages) can’t play is good, is contradictory if you are asking for more content as the same time. Choose : elitism OR content, not both.

CCP did realize the existence of said new generation, and so decided to add the Alpha status. It would have been a good move… but not only they did bad by adding it BEFORE releasing the “New Player Experience” patch (and so wasted the hype ammo in the bad first impression that most of the new players got from the game, with his badly design tutorial and all), the PLEX has rising up since then as CCP decided to do less frequent offer to buy them (especialy true since Pearl Abyss). CCP scuttled itself…

…and CCP is stuck : they can’t afford to reduce PLEX real price or monthly subscriptions to attract people as it will be a decrease of their revenues, but they can’t add false PLEX ingame to reduce ingame price too.

They want new or old players back in the game, but they can’t act.

We also can think that MMO gaming in general is declining blablabla… but it is not true. The most known MMO games are declining, but EVE has always been a niche game and is still unknown by many.

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**Author:** ![Natural\_CloneKiller](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natural_clonekiller/32/387890_2.png) [@Natural\_CloneKiller](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natural_CloneKiller)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2019, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1578 "2019-06-22T15:17:23Z")

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We all have different play styles and interests in the game. What we do need is players in the game!

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**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1580 "2019-06-24T18:30:33Z")

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> [@Salt\_Foambreaker](#):
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> > [@Foggy\_Bernstein](#):
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> > The point is that they are being sold on the idea that it’s a F2P and it isn’t.
> 
> Add so? This applies to 99.99999% of all things that are “free”.

That’s what you are going to go with?

Maybe one day I’ll be a zombie cheerleader for dishonest games companies as well. But until then, I’ll just keep laughing at you doofs.

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**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1581 "2019-06-24T21:33:43Z")

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> [@Natural\_CloneKiller](#):
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> What we do need is players in the game!

Quality \> Quantity.  
More does not equal better.

EVE already proves this to be true.

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**Author:** ![BOINGBOINGBOINGBOING\_BOINGOBBLEOI](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/boingboingboingboing_boingobbleoi/32/203433_2.png) [@BOINGBOINGBOINGBOING\_BOINGOBBLEOI](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BOINGBOINGBOINGBOING_BOINGOBBLEOI)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 9:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1582 "2019-06-24T21:35:53Z")

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If you turn into a zombie cheerleader, can we go on a date?

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**Author:** ![Natural\_CloneKiller](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natural_clonekiller/32/387890_2.png) [@Natural\_CloneKiller](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natural_CloneKiller)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/price-of-plex-market-intervention-required-from-ccp/145111/1583 "2019-06-24T21:50:25Z")

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That’s utter rubbish. If quantity of players drops too much the servers close as it not financially viable. How many mmos have we seen close in the last decade due to lack of quantity.

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