# Pro-Triglavians should not be able to enter Edencom Fortress systems **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 13, 2020, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216 "2020-10-13T14:02:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/41 "2020-10-14T01:12:48Z")
What Edencom fleets? Haven’t you heard? Edencom standings are no longer a real thing. ---
**Author:** ![Clyde\_ElectraGlide](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clyde_electraglide/32/389606_2.png) [@Clyde\_ElectraGlide](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clyde_ElectraGlide)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 1:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/42 "2020-10-14T01:17:14Z")
It’s actually a joke. Apparently you can just join Horde or whatever, rat in the drone lands for a day, and all the drawbacks from having Trig standings go away. At this point I’m purposefully just avoiding all that content because of CCP’s trig bias. I’ll never simp for Zorya, especially because CCP seems to want all of us to. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 1:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/43 "2020-10-14T01:18:08Z")
But Zorya has all the best asteroid belts. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 1:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/44 "2020-10-14T01:19:26Z")
Aren’t you that developer who quit a few years ago to go back to her homeland? ---
**Author:** ![Succulent\_Succubi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/succulent_succubi/32/242516_2.png) [@Succulent\_Succubi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Succulent_Succubi)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 4:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/45 "2020-10-14T04:40:09Z")
> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > the worst content since i started to play the game imo It must be the worst game design of any MMO i played so far. And ive seen a lot of them over the years… Pretty much nobody in highsec cares about this thing so CCP of course goes all out and shoves it down their throats and somehow thinks it makes their game better. ---
**Author:** ![Cypr3ss\_Deteis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypr3ss_deteis/32/392947_2.png) [@Cypr3ss\_Deteis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypr3ss_Deteis)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 5:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/46 "2020-10-14T05:17:34Z")
> [@DrysonBennington](#): > > So does this mean that High Sec gankers can wait at the entry point into the Trig system to gank the returning Edencom Fleets? Hmm, ok so to start, the Trig systems aren’t high sec anymore… so i don’t know if they’d be “high sec gankers” anymore and the entry point will be: (a) a wormhole (so it’s possible this could be camped) _or_ (b) wherever in space the filament drops your fleet… you’d be hard pressed to have a camp setup for that, but combat probes could find fleets that have filamented in if someone is watching. Hopefully this answers your question? Regards, Cypr3ss. ---
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 5:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/47 "2020-10-14T05:35:24Z")
Sansha and Blood Raider have never invaded Empire space like the Triglavians did, not even in their darkest days. Double standard and sissy-behavior much. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 6:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/48 "2020-10-14T06:38:47Z")
You’d do well stocking up in at least one of these systems before anyone else does … … because they _will_ get crowded eventually. Remember, trigs will turn into a playable race. If you had doubts before, I hope those doubts are now gone. Just think long-term. As of right now, these systems are gold-mines in terms of resources, because they’re basically uncontested and you can get in and out easily if you put your mind to it. Short-term thinking leads nowhere with this. ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/49 "2020-10-14T07:38:03Z")
> [@Damar\_Rocarion](#): > > Currently if you want to use Triglavian gates, you need high-standing towards Pro-Trigs. Yup, and the trigs built those gates, edencom didn’t build the empire gates so your request makes literally no sense from a gameplay perspective ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/50 "2020-10-14T07:39:29Z")
> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > Remember, trigs will turn into a playable race. > If you had doubts before, I hope those doubts are now gone. Having space does not a playable race make, rogue drones have owned space for years, and they won’t make them playable because there isn’t any way to really balance it out especially when it comes to costs of skillbooks that are basically mandatory like spaceship command skills and gunnery skills, so i very much doubt they will be playable ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/51 "2020-10-14T08:24:47Z")
Sure there is and they are well on their way to ensuring that playable-from-start proTrigs will be a thing. Pretty much everything so far has pointed to this, and more than likely the first Omega-only character choice since introducing Alpha. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/52 "2020-10-14T09:06:16Z")
Seems like the good people from Eve Scout have even more on their hands now, tracking the new T-space holes. So, essentially T-space is the maturation of the Proving Grounds ? Filaments and limits on numbers in fleet ? Does that mean I will be able to exchange my stacks of PG filaments for the new ones ? A shining example of balanced game design, not giving any player even a semblance of an advantage. Except unconquerable systems, highly restricted travel and resource gathering and access to filaments. Yes, sarcasm mode will stay ON for a while. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/53 "2020-10-14T09:09:05Z")
Sorry, can you explain to me the sarcasm bit? ---
**Author:** ![Scarlet\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scarlet_starfire/32/244125_2.png) [@Scarlet\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scarlet_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/54 "2020-10-14T09:33:08Z")
> [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](#): > > They should not be able to dock in any NPC station. They should not be able to use any NPC market, cloning service, repair facility or any other NPC provided amenities. They should not have a medical cloning fallback option in their school station. They are invaders and invader supporting characters and should be treated like that. > > But we are talking about CCP here and they have neither the guts nor the competence to do things thoroughly and logically. > > “Actions have consequences” - This used to be CCP’s prime motive for talking about capsuleer activities. That’s no more. Why should they be treated any different to the rest of the game? This character being Minmatar took great delight in blowing up Amarr military ships, but still used to go to Amarr to buy things on occasions. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/55 "2020-10-14T09:43:36Z")
![200w](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/c/d/cd9fa94587700f0caf7b82341f29b35892d68063.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/56 "2020-10-14T09:45:32Z")
Nah, just curious. My view is that this little safe spot will be nicely safe for paying players, with a marketing campaign when the Trig NPE rolls out that makes the Destiny stealing for the Invasion look like a leaflet handed out by a street-corner God botherer. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/57 "2020-10-14T09:53:47Z")
Are you serious about believing there will be a Trig NPE, or is it just a joke meme? ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 10:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/58 "2020-10-14T10:03:55Z")
For now we are like ![tumblr_c4a7e90b86b08b7a366313d94d626368_4b02f494_400](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/d/9/d9fb0b90b96d2c7db52af64b64988ad9ffaa871d.gif) But it may escalate to ![giphy (7)](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/9/0/904625db38a0496d910c6bd57174ffe1b75a57de.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/59 "2020-10-14T10:39:04Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Pretty much everything so far has pointed to this, and more than likely the first Omega-only character choice since introducing Alpha. Yeah from a logistics standpoint it just doens’t work, i mean you’re free to hope for it, but it won’t happen as there are too many issues that can’t be controlled, its why there still aren’t pirate factions available to new players ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/60 "2020-10-14T10:39:37Z")
> [@Cypherous](#): > > i mean you’re free to hope for it Why on earth would I do a silly thing like that? > [@Cypherous](#): > > its why there still aren’t pirate factions available to new players Not really, they just stole the look for the Trigs as well as some key points about them from Destiny to use as selling points, you know, for the kids? There isnt much of interest for them in the Pirate Factions, nor do they have any real interest in doing anything good with the mission system as far as I can see. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216.md?page=4)