# Pro-Triglavians should not be able to enter Edencom Fortress systems **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 13, 2020, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216 "2020-10-13T14:02:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Clyde\_ElectraGlide](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clyde_electraglide/32/389606_2.png) [@Clyde\_ElectraGlide](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clyde_ElectraGlide)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/83 "2020-10-15T18:36:15Z")
Except it isn’t, because they’re completely destroying that dynamic by having drifter and rogue drone kills give you both Trig and Edencom standings. The only thing unintended about the drone structures was how much standings they gave, not that they gave it for both factions. CCP doesn’t want to bother iterating on Edencom held systems, they’d rather destroy the player-supported conflict between the two factions because I guess rogue drones are suddenly a big enough threat to unite two sides that have been at bitter war between each other for months. Oh, and isn’t Trig space cool? You guys should go to Trig space. Precursors are the best! ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/84 "2020-10-15T18:45:03Z")
But will I need to worry about my drifter/drone standings next year? Maybe they will get their own cool regions that I will be locked out of. ---
**Author:** ![Clyde\_ElectraGlide](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clyde_electraglide/32/389606_2.png) [@Clyde\_ElectraGlide](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clyde_ElectraGlide)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/85 "2020-10-15T19:24:29Z")
From what I could tell, CCP anticipated that there would be barely anyone supporting Edencom this year, so they might as well just plug that hole so we’re all forcibly grouped together doing PvE content. (as a serious answer, they probably wouldn’t do this anyways even if they had rewarded edencom players properly, rogue drones are basically Eve’s version of wild animals and drifters are omnicidal maniacs that IIRC hate all capsuleers, so it wouldn’t make any sense to join them) ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/86 "2020-10-15T19:28:06Z")
So what IS the difference between a Sleeper and a Drifter, other than the fact that Drifters are almost unbeatable? ---
**Author:** ![Clyde\_ElectraGlide](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clyde_electraglide/32/389606_2.png) [@Clyde\_ElectraGlide](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clyde_ElectraGlide)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2020, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/87 "2020-10-15T19:36:27Z")
I’m not that well versed on drifter stuff as I was unsubbed for a long period when they were the dominant threat, so someone else could probably explain it a lot better than I could. From what I understand though, sleepers were always present in wormhole space, as they were an offshoot of the Jove that explored it. They were “asleep” more or less hence the name, but our presence there woke them up and now they’re the rats you fight in W-space. Drifters I believe were the result of CONCORD prodding around in space somewhere and happening upon them, although I could be wrong because I believe they and the trigs were discovered through similar means. I’m not sure what their origins are, I just know that they’re extremely dangerous and shoot just about everything. If you wanted a more accurate reply, I’m sure there’s someone that browses the Eve Fiction boards that could tell you much more than I could. ---
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 5:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/88 "2020-10-16T05:21:55Z")
Actually they don’t because they don’t take over systems, destroy stars and kill planet ecosystems. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 8:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/89 "2020-10-16T08:43:31Z")
> [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](#): > > they don’t take over systems, destroy stars and kill planet ecosystems. That sounds more like the Empires ---
**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/90 "2020-10-17T01:00:57Z")
For invaders the Trigs certainly have all their bases covered. What I wonder is, what now? What is the advantage of being involved in this content? ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 1:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/91 "2020-10-17T01:29:33Z")
That Trig space is so full of money it is ridiculous. You don’t even need to shoot anything - the NPCs shoot each other and leave their loot and wrecks strewn everywhere. ---
**Author:** ![Nujenif\_Talvanen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nujenif_talvanen/32/433113_2.png) [@Nujenif\_Talvanen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nujenif_Talvanen)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 2:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/92 "2020-10-17T02:04:07Z")
It would be fun for there to be certain NPC’s from both sides that flew and were fit like solo PvP ships, kind of like sophisticated clone soldiers. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 2:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/93 "2020-10-17T02:06:14Z")
Or like the burner mission bosses. Trig stealth bomber wings 💥 ---
**Author:** ![Nujenif\_Talvanen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nujenif_talvanen/32/433113_2.png) [@Nujenif\_Talvanen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nujenif_Talvanen)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 4:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/94 "2020-10-17T04:23:35Z")
Ah yes. ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2020, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/95 "2020-10-19T21:50:38Z")
And by that logic, edencom should not enter triglavian space But npc and pro edencom player do right, so we do the same ---
**Author:** ![Ashterothi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ashterothi/32/459299_2.png) [@Ashterothi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ashterothi)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 2:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/96 "2020-10-20T02:53:05Z")
We get blapped by the gatecamps there. Also we have to go to Fortresses to grind standings… ---
**Author:** ![Ichabod\_Crane\_Esq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ichabod_crane_esq/32/353572_2.png) [@Ichabod\_Crane\_Esq](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ichabod_Crane_Esq)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 5:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/97 "2020-11-02T17:10:42Z")
actually they do… you know missions.,. belts… combat anoms etc… oh i forgot… Incursions as far as sansha goes. ---
**Author:** ![Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhalyd_lyehin/32/358574_2.png) [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhalyd_Lyehin)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2020, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/98 "2020-11-02T17:11:22Z")
Have they taken systems for themselves and destroyed gate connections? If you have to indulge in necrophilia, at least do so based on facts, not on fetishes. ---
**Author:** ![Evei\_Shard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/evei_shard/32/245990_2.png) [@Evei\_Shard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Evei_Shard)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/100 "2020-11-04T18:41:40Z")
I am curious as to where you see this potentially going? A new facet to New Eden gameplay? Full on WoW style Horde vs. Alliance? ---
**Author:** ![Mei\_Chu-ANN](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mei_chu-ann/32/224850_2.png) [@Mei\_Chu-ANN](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mei_Chu-ANN)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/101 "2020-11-04T18:54:54Z")
Your wrong actually they fought for Edencom systems, there was only one group that I knew of that fought for status Quo aka no Edencom or Trig. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/102 "2020-11-04T19:13:44Z")
Hmm well Id say the main difference between the WoW analogy and this is that they expect people to flip flop between sides, given there seems to be content for both factions in there. Basically, play tennis with players as each side gets a buff or a new best-thing-ever. Like, notice how after the saturation of Trig ships became so much that clouds of Leshaks became common, EDENCOM ships got a buff and a 90% reductionin LP cost? They say it was for “balance” and people said “yay they listened to us” A blind man’s dog could have told you that they sucked in their original configuration, and I hear they still suck, so expect juicy buffs to the Stormtosser and the Skybonker or whatever they are called. ---
**Author:** ![Senyu\_Takashi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/senyu_takashi/32/213351_2.png) [@Senyu\_Takashi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Senyu_Takashi)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2020, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pro-triglavians-should-not-be-able-to-enter-edencom-fortress-systems/273216/103 "2020-11-04T19:29:12Z")
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