# Procurer in LowSec

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/procurer-in-lowsec/66755>\
**Category:** New Citizens Q&A\
**Created:** [March 30, 2018, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/procurer-in-lowsec/66755 "2018-03-30T10:39:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2018, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/procurer-in-lowsec/66755/1 "2018-03-30T10:39:39Z")

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Is it possible to mine ore in Lowsec in a Procurer, using fits like [Procurer Null Sec](https://o.smium.org/loadout/49044) or [Procurer Tank Fit](https://www.reddit.com/r/fittings/comments/5lp8gl/f_procurer_tank_fit/) ? I take it the idea is to have enough tank and warp stability to be able to bug out to a stargate, away from an attacker, whilst your drones keep him at bay ?

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**Author:** ![Peta\_Chieve](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/peta_chieve/32/260061_2.png) [@Peta\_Chieve](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Peta_Chieve)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2018, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/procurer-in-lowsec/66755/2 "2018-03-30T11:16:48Z")

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Gunna stop you right there.

I wouldn’t bother mining in LS at all ever. Not only are lvl5s better ISK, but safer too. If you wanna mine and make bank, do it in NS, with support fleets, cap wings and rorq boosts.

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**Author:** ![Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ralph_king-griffin/32/252855_2.png) [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ralph_King-Griffin)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2018, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/procurer-in-lowsec/66755/3 "2018-03-30T11:38:17Z")

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> [@Dravick\_Afterthought](#):
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> Is it possible to mine ore in Lowsec in a Procurer,

absolutely

> [@Dravick\_Afterthought](#):
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> I take it the idea is to have enough tank and warp stability to be able to bug out to a stargate, away from an attacker, whilst your drones keep him at bay ?

nope.  
that ship’s defensive strategy is being cheaper than a days mining for a shite three man ice mining op.

if _you_ take _that_ into low this will happen as soon as the locals see you.

that sort of sketchy mining _is what the venture is for_.

its cheep , its fast and they’re fecking hard to pin down.  
barges are none of those things.

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**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2018, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/procurer-in-lowsec/66755/4 "2018-03-30T14:59:29Z")

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> [@Ralph\_King-Griffin](#):
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Thanks. Love the graphic, as an ex-archer I appreciate it all the more 🙂

What sort of fit would you give the Venture ?

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**Author:** ![Flharfh\_Lhar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/flharfh_lhar/32/260113_2.png) [@Flharfh\_Lhar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Flharfh_Lhar)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2018, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/procurer-in-lowsec/66755/5 "2018-04-04T16:58:33Z")

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Don’t mine in lowsec. The risk just isn’t worth the reward. Staying in high sec, joining a null sec corp, or going daytripping in wormholes for gas are all better options.

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**Author:** ![JuuR\_Zibaoo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/juur_zibaoo/32/375053_2.png) [@JuuR\_Zibaoo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JuuR_Zibaoo)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/procurer-in-lowsec/66755/6 "2018-04-05T07:39:45Z")

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hi @Dravick_Afterthought

why you want to go to LS for mining? just for the isk or for the minerals or??  
since the new moonmining you can warp to any refinary in 0.5 HS and mine better ore there … its free … they cant do anything and you are in HS  
or is there a real reason to go to LS like mining ops with your corp or such stuff?  
are you in a corp? if not maybe look for one who can protect you in LS when you are mining or a corp who has regular mining ops in LS

but as mentioned befor … rich with mining is NS not LS … i made good isk in the beginning with ice mining … dont know if this is still working

feel free to contact me here or ingame … maybe i can help with this and that

JuuR

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**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 10:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/procurer-in-lowsec/66755/7 "2018-04-05T10:44:25Z")

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> [@JuuR\_Zibaoo](#):
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> hi @Dravick_Afterthought why you want to go to LS for mining?

“Because it’s there” is my only excuse 🙂

I live in a 0.5 system, with moon-mining available and ice-mining in the next system, so I’m pretty well served with safe opportunities. I’m in a Corps already, but ‘feeling my way in’ as I’m rather a n00b.

Trying other stuff as I learn, and LS mining is an aspect of that . WH mining will be next on the list.

> [@JuuR\_Zibaoo](#):
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> feel free to contact me here or ingame … maybe i can help with this and that

Thanks for the offer, I may well take you up on it.

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**Author:** ![JuuR\_Zibaoo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/juur_zibaoo/32/375053_2.png) [@JuuR\_Zibaoo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/JuuR_Zibaoo)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/procurer-in-lowsec/66755/8 "2018-04-05T10:57:16Z")

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@Dravick_Afterthought  
sorry no need for excuse … try new stuff is allways a good thing  
so if you dont do it “because of the isk” its a total different thing  
you have your base for making isk and want to use some of it to try LS mining … it will be more a look, dscan and run thing but its ok to try

if you look for WH mining then look at a venture or a prospect … barges are easy targets 😉

we all were n00bs … thats ok … you are in a corp where you get help if needed … were you can ask and get answers  
maybe a corp mate can check the systems for you befor you jump in

take care and have fun trying new stuff and stay curious  
fly safe  
JuuR

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**Author:** ![Vol\_Arm\_OOO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vol_arm_ooo/32/213741_2.png) [@Vol\_Arm\_OOO](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vol_Arm_OOO)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/procurer-in-lowsec/66755/9 "2018-04-05T11:42:31Z")

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Lowsec mining is very doable. It’s not a question of the fit but rather a function of being aware of your surroundings. If you get tackled you will die so the goal is not to get tackled. You do this by being aware of who is around you. We mine very successfully in our lowsec home because we know who is supposed to be there. If a neut rolls in either we dock up or bait them depending on who is online. If you pay attention to local you will simply not have any problems.

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**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/procurer-in-lowsec/66755/10 "2018-04-05T12:17:14Z")

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Thanks. I’ve spent a little time ‘hiding’ in my local lowsec to get a feel for when it’s busy, who’s around etc. Am I correct in thinking that, providing I’m cloaked in a well chosen ‘safe spot’, I can’t be spotted except by someone/thing happening to come within 2000 metres of me purely by chance ?

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**Author:** ![Lily\_Inkura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lily_inkura/32/174143_2.png) [@Lily\_Inkura](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lily_Inkura)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/procurer-in-lowsec/66755/11 "2018-04-05T13:32:45Z")

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[quote=“Dravick\_Afterthought, post:1, topic:66755”]  
Is it possible to mine ore in Lowsec in a Procurer [/quote]

Yes. It’s fun too. Don’t listen to the naysayers. Procurer is also good for taking out clone soldiers, at least in 0.4 and maybe 0.3. Otherwise, once clone is triggered you have to move on with venture etc.

[quote=“Dravick\_Afterthought, post:1, topic:66755”]  
I take it the idea is to have enough tank and warp stability to be able to bug out [/quote]

I don’t fit core stabs except when moving systems. My gameplay is to only locate barge where there are public structures, fit 2 MLUs, and duck and cover whenever **anyone** enters system. Otherwise, without a rabbit hole, I only use venture or increasingly a prospect.

The value in low sec mining has gone out the window with 0.5 moon mining. However, there is still value / fun in ninja mining R32 & 64 moons. I did get wardecced once, but still made a billion or so for no losses when it started, as moon goo prices meant a full venture load could top 40 mil.

> [@Dravick\_Afterthought](#):
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> Am I correct in thinking that, providing I’m cloaked in a well chosen ‘safe spot’, I can’t be spotted except by someone/thing happening to come within 2000 metres of me purely by chance

Correct. The advantage of a skilled prospect though is you can also warp when cloaked - once you can fit covert ops. The other option in LS though is to go for a an endurance and mine LS ice. This is another money maker - if, you can keep in space uncloaked long enough. But at the moment it is 3 x (?) value of HS ice.

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**Author:** ![Lily\_Inkura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lily_inkura/32/174143_2.png) [@Lily\_Inkura](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lily_Inkura)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/procurer-in-lowsec/66755/12 "2018-04-05T13:37:07Z")

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PS. You asked for fit for LS venture. Travel fit (for scouting systems and moons etc) is a core stab in low, ECM in mid and best AB you can fit. Makes you very slippy. I then carry an MLU and other mid options in cargo and swap out when mining.

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**Author:** ![Dravick\_Afterthought](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dravick_afterthought/32/282017_2.png) [@Dravick\_Afterthought](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dravick_Afterthought)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/procurer-in-lowsec/66755/13 "2018-04-05T13:58:50Z")

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Thanks

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**Post date:** [July 4, 2018, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/procurer-in-lowsec/66755/14 "2018-07-04T13:58:54Z")

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