# Proposal for Rebalancing of the Suicide Gank **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Tags:** high-sec\ **Created:** [June 24, 2022, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013 "2022-06-24T09:28:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 37
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 11:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/807 "2022-09-20T23:57:40Z")
Flagging post just makes me take the effort to read them cuz they usually have a zing in them! šŸ˜† ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 11:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/808 "2022-09-20T23:58:03Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > Yeah, I so terribly mad. I just canā€™t stand it when some random guy ganks for 5 minutes then spams a forum. My guy, you spam just as much as I do šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/809 "2022-09-20T23:59:10Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > I donā€™t have any alts on here I want to believe you. But I donā€™t. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 12:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/811 "2022-09-21T00:03:53Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > Get help bro. You need it more than I. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. > [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > Accuses someone else of beign a chatbot. Yeah, you got me on that one. I still think your just RPā€™ing. (I didnā€™t bother to correct your spelling. You need a ā€œHold My Beerā€ T-shirt!) ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/812 "2022-09-21T00:05:21Z")
Why would you even post that? So what if someone believes you or not. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 12:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/813 "2022-09-21T00:06:33Z")
Endless salt invigorates us all! šŸ¤£ ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 12:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/815 "2022-09-21T00:31:49Z")
Iā€™ll just respond with: > [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > I donā€™t have any alts on here and I get pinged pretty much constantly about my posts being flagged. Maybe someoneā€™s trolling both sides. Maybe someone is trolling both sides? šŸ¤” ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 12:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/817 "2022-09-21T00:37:10Z")
šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø A lot of things are sus on these forums concerning your posts and the posts of the people who respond to you that end up getting flagged. Who knows? ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/818 "2022-09-21T01:07:58Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > You have to warp near someone? Oh no! The challenge! It beats the sheer challenge you must face sitting on your ass all day in Jita watching your AFK autopilot haulers come in and seeing your pile of ISK that you will never spend on anything useful grow bigger as you pretend to care about noobs and openly admit here that you are bored of the game. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 1:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/819 "2022-09-21T01:14:42Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > AFK autopilot haulers Now I get it! I knew there was a twist. šŸ•¶ ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 1:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/820 "2022-09-21T01:55:16Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > I just canā€™t stand it when some random guy ganks for 5 minutes then spams a forum. Not to make too fine a point of it, but this thread has 72 replies and 1/4 of them are you. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 4:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/821 "2022-09-21T04:21:41Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > as you pretend to care about noobs and openly admit here that you are bored of the game. Take this final lesson well young Padawan. All players could become like him. When you feel its time, walk away from the game, content with the memories youā€™ve made. Donā€™t let it turn you into that. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 5:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/822 "2022-09-21T05:03:25Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Donā€™t let it turn you into that. Oh, Iā€™m still at that stage of finding everything new and exciting, as to all extents and purposes I really only started Eve properly 6 months ago. Itā€™s interesting that most of the people against ganking are either brand new noobs who donā€™t really understand the game ( like I was with Cilla Cybin ) or are prehistoric bittervets who predate the dinosaurs and are probably just bored and looking for a ā€˜causeā€™. ---
**Author:** ![Oleg\_K77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/oleg_k77/32/329549_2.png) [@Oleg\_K77](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Oleg_K77)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/823 "2022-09-21T06:37:18Z")
Despite the fact that there are some pretty useful tips, overall topic sounds kinda like ā€œHow to avoid being robbed on street and why robbing isnā€™t a problemā€ šŸ™„ Just because you can avoid something it doesnā€™t mean it isnā€™t a problem. ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 6:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/824 "2022-09-21T06:55:02Z")
I agree, itā€™s really hard to avoid robbing people in this game. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 7:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/825 "2022-09-21T07:06:14Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > And as you said, ganking isnā€™t a problem for veterans clearly, you canā€™t demand that people learn to play the game. We have to remove this obstacles, so the game is equally boring for everyone ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/826 "2022-09-21T07:51:11Z")
> [@Oleg\_K77](#): > > Just because you can avoid something it doesnā€™t mean it isnā€™t a problem. Learning how to avoid it is the first step in making it not a problem. As we have all been educated, ganking isnā€™t a problem for veterans šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 7:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/827 "2022-09-21T07:52:30Z")
> [@Oleg\_K77](#): > > Despite the fact that there are some pretty useful tips, overall topic sounds kinda like ā€œHow to avoid being robbed on street and why robbing isnā€™t a problemā€ šŸ™„ > > Just because you can avoid something it doesnā€™t mean it isnā€™t a problem. This is a computer game. The goal isnā€™t to build a society free of crime and hardship. In fact the goal is the complete opposite, to build a challenging environment with driving conflicts and struggles to overcome. The issue with a lot of carebears is that they canā€™t wrap their little heads around this simple fact and canā€™t separate whatā€™s desirable for a real world society to what makes sense in a computer game. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/829 "2022-09-21T08:50:44Z")
> [@Oleg\_K77](#): > > Just because you can avoid something it doesnā€™t mean it isnā€™t a problem. But no one has defined in what way it is a problem, and why it should be a problem the players need to have to deal with. If thereā€™s a problem with the game, isnt that CCPā€™s issue, not ours? ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/830 "2022-09-21T09:34:54Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > But gankers arenā€™t being given a challenge. Their gameplay is stale and challengeless which is why people like Gix try it for 5 minutes then get bored Oh? You can read minds now too? LOL. Ganking is fun šŸ˜ƒ Both for lulz and for profit. However, I donā€™t take EVE seriously enough to sub more than one account, nor do I want to start a ganker corp to recruit peeps to the life. If I had more than one account, Iā€™d def gank all the time. Easy money considering most peoples still havenā€™t learned how to evade it. Iā€™d farm whatever hub Hawk wasnā€™t in, and also fly around looking for abyss runners. It can be harder to fly around a -10 gank squad tho. It is actually challenging and requires coordination. It takes a lot of coordination and scouting and frankly, I enjoy piloting just one ship šŸ˜ƒ > [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > I genuinely donā€™t understand how you guys can repeatedly claim that EVE is supposed to be hard while simultaneously defending one of the easiest and most overpowered mechanics in the game. So drop your ganking alts. Prove youā€™ve actually done it šŸ˜ƒ [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013.md?page=36) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013.md?page=38)