# Proposal for Rebalancing of the Suicide Gank **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Tags:** high-sec\ **Created:** [June 24, 2022, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013 "2022-06-24T09:28:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 49
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 12:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/1140 "2022-09-26T00:56:39Z")
> [@Wadiest\_Yong](#): > > window lickers… 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/1141 "2022-09-26T01:00:33Z")
I almost fell out of my chair when I read that post about giggling window lickers. It’s a shame it was deleted. I thought it was one of the more inspired (if not witty) ones. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 1:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/1143 "2022-09-26T01:04:24Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > you proceed to ■■■■ yourself. Did I butthurt someone? You’re losing a battle of wits, but you don’t even see it. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 1:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/1144 "2022-09-26T01:06:08Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > Stop telling me that I’ve said my piece and should stop posting then. What ? More reruns ? Oh noes. > [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > griefing this isn’t a thread about **griefing**. It’s about **ganking**. We all agree on the fact that **griefing** (harassment, real life threats, and worse) have no place in this game. Like you I understand the power of repetition, its usefulness as an educational tool. Resistance is futile, you will be educated 🤣 > [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > them immediately resorting to coordinated group harassment and attacks does that who was harassed ? ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/1146 "2022-09-26T01:07:38Z")
He just makes it up as he goes along… ---
**Author:** ![Codename\_Razorback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/codename_razorback/32/486427_2.png) [@Codename\_Razorback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Codename_Razorback)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 1:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/1147 "2022-09-26T01:11:13Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > encouraging gank victims to come to the forum and voice their concerns Absolutely! I’ll have my alt that monitors their channel start sending out emails to each victim. (As my busy schedule allows) * * * ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/1/0/0102df2f7d329104949bef9fb5ae9d77fc61a2c7.gif) ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/1148 "2022-09-26T01:12:58Z")
> [@Codename\_Razorback](#): > > Absolutely! I’ll have my alt that monitors their channel start sending out emails to each victim. 🤣 🥱 🍿 😱 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 1:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/1149 "2022-09-26T01:15:51Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > Same thing. Nope. Ganking and griefing are two very different things. I’m surprised no one told you that before. You see, ganking is what we call a surprise i.e., unexpected attack from another player in EvE Online. That’s EvE vernacular. Other MMO communities will use the same word in a different context, usually where it concerns large groups focusing on a single mobile/NPC or even another player. Here we can have solo ganking. See the difference ? It’s important, as this is an open-pvp game, designed like that from day 1. Griefing on the other hand, is a very serious infraction of the EULA/ToS, and in some cases even of local laws. No one has ever been supported for griefing I hope that makes it clearer. It’s important to have a good definition of words, you know ? Otherwise we might end up in endless discussions because people are not talking about the same thing, you know ? It’s best to use the local vernacular, in the same sense, and in the same context, you know ? So people can talk about the same thing, you know ? You’re welcome. You don’t get tired of that routine ? Feel free to continue. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 1:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/1151 "2022-09-26T01:17:29Z")
I know, and your disagreeing is completely meaningless 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 1:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/1153 "2022-09-26T01:18:21Z")
Where would there be funny content on these forums if it wasn’t for you. 24/7 even At least my view on the matter is more in line with what ccp brought to market, hehe. ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 1:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/1155 "2022-09-26T01:20:13Z")
I could not imagine my morning comics without you! ---
**Author:** ![Codename\_Razorback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/codename_razorback/32/486427_2.png) [@Codename\_Razorback](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Codename_Razorback)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 1:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/1156 "2022-09-26T01:25:09Z")
> [@MB\_ThePhotographer](#): > > morning comics You guys just keep using the same old tactics. I guess since James is gone you don’t have anyone to write some new material. How sad ☹ * * * ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 1:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/1157 "2022-09-26T01:27:44Z")
Lucas writes some all the time! I’m never let down buy his comical outlook on the game. 😀 ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 1:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/1158 "2022-09-26T01:28:43Z")
![download (1)](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/8/a/8a31e5688cb00ea3ab136966924370b584b86ee0.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 1:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/1159 "2022-09-26T01:30:04Z")
**THAT** is some old stuff!!! You need to meet my brother! ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 1:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/1160 "2022-09-26T01:30:31Z")
> [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > What you imagine and reality are two separate things. What if someone were disabled and using gaze interaction to type? Aren’t you opposed to ableist remarks? You realize you disprove what you’re trynna say with this remark right? “What if” 😃 I ain’t talking about anyone but you home skillet 😃 You tried tho 😃 > [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > Simply not true. Well, it has been illuminating. You’re a griefer and a botter. Not surprising tho 😃 > [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > How about, I do whatever I want and you proceed to ■■■■ yourself. Fair? Spock says emotion detected 😃 > [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > And certain types of game behaviour - such as griefing - will always create calls for change. Oh. So since you use alpha accounts to grief, should we limit those too? 😃 > [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > Nope, them immediately resorting to coordinated group harassment and attacks does that. I’d have zero issues with the way gankers conduct themselves if they stayed rational and reasonable but you rarely even see one single reply that fits that criteria. Um. Yennoe we don’t have like daily meetings where we plot against ya yennoe. In fact, I’ve only ever seen a handful of these peeps even in game. Last time I saw Aiko physically in game was during the Christimas event, and I promptly bounced from the event site and docked up 😃 Also erm, you are the only one who appears to just ROFLcopter out and throw fits. Everyone else stays pretty rational LOL. > [@Wadiest\_Yong](#): > > who was harassed ? He thinks he’s important enough that we have meetings about him 😃 > [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > Same thing. You realize you already admitted it wasn’t right? A few posts ago 😃 Sometimes I feel you just huff your own gas too hard and confuse even yourself about your stance. I mean don’t get me wrong broskillet, it just makes me _giggle_ 😃 > [@Codename\_Razorback](#): > > Absolutely! I’ll have my alt that monitors their channel start sending out emails to each victim. (As my busy schedule allows) Just go talk to Knowledgeminer in Hek. He lost a nestor in a duel to these bad gankers 😃 He also challenged me to a fight at Hek sun, which I actually flew to and he stood me up ☹ So I just flew around in my atron warning peeps about the evils of mining in Hek. Then I had a nice exchange in local with a Dracsys or whatever lame GoT alliance name it is. Good times 😃 > [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > I disagree. Cept you already agree it wasn’t the same 😃 > [@Wadiest\_Yong](#): > > Where would there be funny content on these forums if it wasn’t for you. Bro are you kidding me? Lucas makes me _giggle_ 😃 ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 1:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/1161 "2022-09-26T01:35:17Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Lucas makes me _giggle_ I had a recent “chat” with Homeland Security over my drone that I wish you were there for. ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 1:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/1162 "2022-09-26T01:37:15Z")
Come to think of it, ccp could make an indecent amount of money if they were to develop a drone that looked like a Nemesis, or any other suitable hull (drake, hecate, hel, nyx) that can have four propellers on it. ccp, you saw it here first !! ---
**Author:** ![MB\_ThePhotographer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mb_thephotographer/32/373722_2.png) [@MB\_ThePhotographer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/MB_ThePhotographer)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 1:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/1163 "2022-09-26T01:39:09Z")
I’m speechless. More distractions? ---
**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 1:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/1164 "2022-09-26T01:41:29Z")
I know, it’s not a bad idea, right ? Could come with different skins as well. And a camera that pops out of the bay where the bomb launcher is. 🤭 “No, officer, I wasn’t spying”. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013.md?page=48) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013.md?page=50)