# Proposal for Rebalancing of the Suicide Gank

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Tags:** high-sec\
**Created:** [June 24, 2022, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013 "2022-06-24T09:28:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 11:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/54 "2022-06-25T23:21:53Z")

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Well, the roots of what is happening today might very well go back that far, but this huge push to turn Eve into a kiddy pool of a game is more recent. Like, if you go back to the old forums around 2017, you can see people complaining about Eve becoming too safe. But the C&P section of the forums hadn’t yet devolved into an avalanche of nerf-my-enemies/get-rid-of-UPvP posts yet.

> **[Crime & Punishment - EVE Online Forums](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/forum/252/)**
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The turn for the worse has definitely been more recent. But, what I really want to know is:

1. Can something be done about it?
2. And, if so, what?

Also, I forgot to link the nerf ganking megathread earlier. So, I’m going to go ahead and do so now.

> [@Nerf Ganking Megathread](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nerf-ganking-megathread/299004):
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> Okay. Someone proposes a nerf to suicide ganking (or getting rid of it entirely) about twice a month. Rather than keep saying the same things over and over again, I figured I’d just create a catch all thread. 
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> > **Myth: Suicide ganking is unbalanced in favor of the gankers.**
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> > False. It is unbalanced, but actually in favor of prey. In fact, game mechanics stack the deck so heavily against suicide ganking, that sustainable ganking is entirely dependent on prey making at least one mistake, if not mor…

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