# Proposal for Rebalancing of the Suicide Gank

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Tags:** high-sec\
**Created:** [June 24, 2022, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013 "2022-06-24T09:28:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ferdiad\_Silver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ferdiad_silver/32/331325_2.png) [@Ferdiad\_Silver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ferdiad_Silver)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-for-rebalancing-of-the-suicide-gank/368013/732 "2022-09-22T14:22:15Z")

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> [@Lucas\_Kell](#):
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> How can you be so much of an idiot that you can quote CCP defining a new player as “30 days old or less” and then _still_ go on to claim that CCPs definition is based on what systems a player visits.

That defines how long the protection of rookie systems lasts. So a year old player can’t hide in a rookie system and call safe.

Also a reminder that you said you never attack the person instead of the argument because you called it “an in-effective debate technique”.

At this point you are just willfully ignoring the facts. I’ll accept that you might not have been admitting to griefing new players by CCPs defenition when you said…

Continuing the discussion from [Nerf Ganking Megathread](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nerf-ganking-megathread/299004/8482):

> [@Nerf Ganking Megathread](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nerf-ganking-megathread/299004/8482):
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> > [@Nerf Ganking Megathread](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/nerf-ganking-megathread/299004/8474):
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> > Did I read that right @Lucas_Kell that you took part in griefing new players?
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> > That is not cool. That has never been ok.
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> To some extent that current gankers still actively grief new players, yes I did.

… because you had an erroneous defenition of new players. However you still griefed them by your own defenition. Still not a misrepresentation as we were labouring under the impression that seeing as you were fighting so hard to protect these new players you atleast new what a new player was!

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