# Proposal: Post-Criminal Exposure Window in Highsec 🟥 **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [February 24, 2026, 3:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-post-criminal-exposure-window-in-highsec/507274 "2026-02-24T15:05:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Anna\_Dyneaux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anna_dyneaux/32/510758_2.png) [@Anna\_Dyneaux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anna_Dyneaux)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-post-criminal-exposure-window-in-highsec/507274/45 "2026-02-25T17:56:50Z")
Play EVE Echoes then, it has very similar features to avoid ship loss. ---
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-post-criminal-exposure-window-in-highsec/507274/46 "2026-02-25T18:15:07Z")
> [@Anna\_Dyneaux](#): > > Follow them around with half a dozen blackbirds. Keep them locked. When they start to blink, start jamming. > **[Han shot first](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_shot_first)** > > "Han shot first" refers to a controversial change made to a scene in the film Star Wars (1977),\[a\] in which Han Solo is confronted by the bounty hunter Greedo in the Mos Eisley cantina. In the original version of this scene, Han shoots Greedo dead. Later versions are edited so that Greedo fires at Han first. Director George Lucas altered the scene to give Solo more justification for acting in self-defense. Many fans and commentators oppose the change, feeling it weakens Solo's characterization. ... When they blink, its too late. Might as well have let Greedo shoot first and rely on someone putting bucket over Greedo’s head to save Han. Then there would only be one very short Star Wars movie instead of three. ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-post-criminal-exposure-window-in-highsec/507274/47 "2026-02-25T18:20:16Z")
And yet we have Chinese players on our server. ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-post-criminal-exposure-window-in-highsec/507274/48 "2026-02-25T19:34:50Z")
> [@Gasephed\_Sinak](#): > > I never said that. I was talking to Christine Creed, the person I replied to, not you. ---
**Author:** ![Anna\_Dyneaux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anna_dyneaux/32/510758_2.png) [@Anna\_Dyneaux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anna_Dyneaux)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-post-criminal-exposure-window-in-highsec/507274/49 "2026-02-25T19:50:51Z")
That depends on the security status of the system. A ganker has a certain time allotted to do his thing, and he’s only going to bring as many ships as he needs to do the job. That means you have between 6 and 24 seconds to incapacitate one or more gank ships. If it’s a .9 without CONCORD prepulled, yeah, you don’t stand a chance, but in a .6 with CONCORD prepulled you’ll have plenty of opportunity. Carrying a flight of ECM drones works the same way. Yeah they’ll only engage after he starts shooting, but if they can knock out one or two ships, you may still make it. ---
**Author:** ![Gasephed\_Sinak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gasephed_sinak/32/478207_2.png) [@Gasephed\_Sinak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gasephed_Sinak)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-post-criminal-exposure-window-in-highsec/507274/50 "2026-02-25T22:01:10Z")
> [@Malak\_Starfire](#): > > the person I replied to There’s a little button, I think it’s [⬅Reply], under each post. By using the main reply, you’re replying to the OP, which is me. * * * **English is hard…** * * * > [@Anna\_Dyneaux](#): > > That means you have between 6 and 24 seconds to incapacitate one or more gank ships. Assuming you know where the target is… * * * ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/5/3/d532122afdf8c9cbc45a9f88ed9e00936f728986.jpeg) * * * ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2026, 10:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-post-criminal-exposure-window-in-highsec/507274/51 "2026-02-25T22:04:20Z")
> [@Gasephed\_Sinak](#): > > There’s a little button, I think it’s [⬅Reply], under each post. By using the main reply, you’re replying to the OP, which is me. I did reply, but since you are the OP, you get a notification for every post. Plus I was directly after, so either one is acceptable, reading and comprehension is hard apparently. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2026, 1:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-post-criminal-exposure-window-in-highsec/507274/53 "2026-02-26T01:35:19Z")
> [@Eloken\_Toralen](#): > > When they blink, its too late That is not true. If have successfully prevented ganks from organized crews by using combat ships _after_ they opened fire. 1. All DPS-based setups like Catalysts, Coercers, Oracles, Nagas, Talos, Bombers (lately Cenotaphs) for example use the window until CONCORD arrives to apply damage to their targets and it is often carefully calculated how much time they have and how many rounds of ammo they can pump into the target. You disrupt them by EWAR or taking out their ships quickly or apply RR to their target and the gank will fail. Proven a thousand times. I have done it myself and it works fine. Anyone else claiming “that isn’t possible” is either lying or has never done it. A well-fitted Oracle can destroy up to 4 Catalysts _before CONCORD arrives_. That means it reduces the total damage dealt by 4 of their ships by ~50%. The 1. Catalyst can do ~20% of it’s intended damage, then it dies. The 2. Catalyst ca. do ~40% of it’s intended damage, then it dies. The 3. Catalyst can do ~60% of it’s intended damage, then it dies. The 4. Catalyst can do ~80% of it’s intended damage, then it dies. A well fitted/skilled Blackbird/Rook/Falcon/Scorpion can reliably prevent 2-3 Catalysts from applying damage by successfully jamming them right away. A Griffin/Kitsune 1-2. **Again: This is TESTED and it works.** 1. All Alphastrike-based Setups like Thrashers, Ruptures, Tornadoes often pick targets that can be killed by a single shot, sometimes scaling up by using multiple ships to bring bigger targets down in one shot. These ships you can’t stop from ganking with DPS or EWAR (well, to a degree you can because for a part their setups are calculated to bring out 2 shots before CONCORD arrives, in those cases you could lower their efficiency by 50% when killing/disrupting them before the 2nd shot comes out). But their much bigger weakness is their reliance on good range and low transversal. They lose a huge part of their damage if they cannot shoot a target that either has _very_ low velocity (directly after decloaking when trying to get into warp) or flying in a perfect line towards them (autopilot targets, undocking targets). They mostly have well selected _gankspots_ that allow them to deliver good shots at the end of their Artillery’s optimal range with great precision. So, the perfect solution is to simply bump these guys. Thrashers can be bumped with MWD frigs, Ruptures either with Cruisers or 50MN frigates, Tornados with 500MN Cruisers, 50MN Battlecruisers or MWD Battleships. Perfect choices are: 50MN Punishers, 500MN Omen You don’t even need to wait for them to engage anything. Bump them 10 times in a row from their spot and they probably will go docking, warp of or at least not engaging anything for as long as you do it. Well, they might try to shoot you, but in almost any case they won’t. Because your ship will always be either a lot cheaper than the ones they need to successfully kill you and they will get a secstatus loss they have to pay for with tags and you can be back within a minute and you will then have a free killright on them. So, tldr: Bump Alphagankers into oblivion and they will fail **I have also tested that: it works** Those two options are very easy entry-level anti-ganking options which ensure some types of ganking (especiall on gates or stations) will fail. Of course you’d have to scale up and cooperate with others if they have an overwhelming presence, but thats just balance. You can’t expect to make a 50 man crew fail by showing up with one ship. 1. Sometimes it isn’t even nessessary to engage the Gankers. You can also assist _the target_. That can be remote-Repairs (Burst-RR fits for Logistic Ships do exist) or by simply _bumping the target_. I also have successfully saved DSTs and even Battleships by ramming a 500MN Omen into them right when the Catalyst blob engaged. Even hurling them away 20km will make sure all Catalysts are way out of weapon range and they have no chance to get back to their target and keep applying damage before CONCORD is there. You could also use a brick-tanked 500MN Machariel or something and just crash into the Catalyst ball, you’ll hurl 3, 4, 5 of them many kilometers, often enough to reduce damage on a high-tanked target like Orca, Freighter, Faction-Battleship or DST. **Also: I have tried it, it works.** So it would be highly appreciated of some people would stop claiming “you can do nothing!!!” - you can. And if all those things above can even be done solo, they could be done with much higher efficiency when acting as a dedicated group. ---
**Author:** ![Gasephed\_Sinak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gasephed_sinak/32/478207_2.png) [@Gasephed\_Sinak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gasephed_Sinak)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2026, 2:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-post-criminal-exposure-window-in-highsec/507274/54 "2026-02-26T02:00:44Z")
> [@Syzygium](#): > > Proven a thousand times. **I call BS.** * * * ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/a/8/ca896e89b69822114beb239403874d60e3d6af61.png) * * * What proof do you have? ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2026, 3:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-post-criminal-exposure-window-in-highsec/507274/55 "2026-02-26T03:13:21Z")
Testing antiganking strategies also involves Tracking Disruption. Doesn’t work too well vs. Catalysts tho, so it should be ignored. Using raw DPS works better, but you need some numbers: **Killed before CONCORD was there, reducing the damage they could deal.** > **[Catalyst | Shadow Fireball | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/103255320/)** > > Shadow Fireball (Incompentent Anti-Gankers) lost their Catalyst in Uedama (The Citadel). Final Blow by Syzygium (Nagamoto Inc.) flying solo in a Absolution. Total Value: 11,083,145.44 ISK > **[Catalyst | Permit Salesman | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/103255319/)** > > Permit Salesman (New Order Mining Authority) lost their Catalyst in Uedama (The Citadel). Final Blow by Syzygium (Nagamoto Inc.) flying solo in a Absolution. Total Value: 11,422,498.12 ISK > **[Catalyst | Police Inspector | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/103255018/)** > > Police Inspector (Big Willies PVP Madness) lost their Catalyst in Uedama (The Citadel). Final Blow by Syzygium (Nagamoto Inc.) flying in a Absolution. Total Value: 11,084,555.68 ISK > **[Catalyst | Chroepheohyi | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/103255012/)** > > Chroepheohyi (Emergency Temporal Shift.) lost their Catalyst in Uedama (The Citadel). Final Blow by Syzygium (Nagamoto Inc.) flying solo in a Absolution. Total Value: 11,024,933.12 ISK > **[Catalyst | Permit Salesman | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/103254516/)** > > Permit Salesman (New Order Mining Authority) lost their Catalyst in Uedama (The Citadel). Final Blow by Syzygium (Nagamoto Inc.) flying solo in a Absolution. Total Value: 11,422,498.12 ISK > **[Catalyst | Aiko Danuja | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/103254514/)** > > Aiko Danuja (Krigmakt) lost their Catalyst in Uedama (The Citadel). Final Blow by Syth Sunmaster (Killer Whale Free Navy) flying in a Oracle. Total Value: 11,423,555.80 ISK > **[Catalyst | Alleil Pollard | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/103254512/)** > > Alleil Pollard (The Conference Elite) lost their Catalyst in Uedama (The Citadel). Final Blow by Syzygium (Nagamoto Inc.) flying in a Absolution. Total Value: 11,084,203.12 ISK > **[Catalyst | Shadow Cyrilus | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/98753152/)** > > Shadow Cyrilus (Big Willies PVP Madness) lost their Catalyst in Sivala (The Citadel). Final Blow by Syzygium (Nagamoto Inc.) flying solo in a Oracle. Total Value: 13,708,369.83 ISK > **[Catalyst | Whadda Badasaz | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/98753157/)** > > Whadda Badasaz (New Order Mining Authority) lost their Catalyst in Sivala (The Citadel). Final Blow by Syzygium (Nagamoto Inc.) flying solo in a Oracle. Total Value: 13,690,701.40 ISK > **[Catalyst | Zombiepilot | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/98753154/)** > > Zombiepilot (Krigmakt Elite) lost their Catalyst in Sivala (The Citadel). Final Blow by Syzygium (Nagamoto Inc.) flying solo in a Oracle. Total Value: 13,689,168.92 ISK Could it save the targets in this case? No. It was just _testing the concept_ by using different ships and see how they perform. It shows that you _can_ kill multiple Catalysts during a gank before CONCORD is there, lowering the time they have to apply DPS on the target. Which means you make the gank more costly (gankers need more ships to sacrifice) and move targets out of their damage range (once they hit a limit of accounts they can use). Any group wanting to do something against Ganking could simply scale up the ships used and successfully prevent ganks. It’s very obvious that it doesn’t work bringing one or two ships against 20, 30 or 50 gankers. I’d recommend Talos’ and Oracles, they work best. Successfully killed the ganker before he could fire a second round. Target lived. > **[Rupture | X-100 Female | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/102189597/)** > > X-100 Female (School of Applied Knowledge) lost their Rupture in Uedama (The Citadel). Final Blow by Spartan2747 (New Eden Strike Force) flying in a Hurricane Fleet Issue. Total Value: 26,247,306.48 ISK Successfuly baited a gankquad into believing I was an activetank eventrunner, found out I just waited for them. > **[Bagodan (Domain) 2023-10-15, 19:30 ET](https://br.evetools.org/br/699fac2c6e47f9001276ddb1)** > > Battle involved 7 pilots > who lost a total of 65.8m isk So, that should be enough “proof” that I have actually DONE antiganking (and thats by far not all you can see here, as I have multiple accounts and my main usually lives in Wormholes). Bumping, Tankbaiting and Remoterepping obviously generates no Battlereports as there are no mails with the char involved. But, given the fact that I can back up my claims with facts and you cannot, I think we can agree to trust on my word rather than on yours in this matter. ---
**Author:** ![Gasephed\_Sinak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gasephed_sinak/32/478207_2.png) [@Gasephed\_Sinak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gasephed_Sinak)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2026, 3:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-post-criminal-exposure-window-in-highsec/507274/56 "2026-02-26T03:21:54Z")
You’ve got about 990 to go… ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2026, 3:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-post-criminal-exposure-window-in-highsec/507274/57 "2026-02-26T03:39:06Z")
not really, you have yet _a single point to make_. ---
**Author:** ![Gasephed\_Sinak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gasephed_sinak/32/478207_2.png) [@Gasephed\_Sinak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gasephed_Sinak)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2026, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-post-criminal-exposure-window-in-highsec/507274/58 "2026-02-26T20:46:48Z")
Ganking is imbalanced an without risk. CCP seems to like it or can’t fix it. I get chastised or blocked for breathing. The truth stands on it’s own, even if some are too impaired to comprehend it. Either way, the game is stuck. Perhaps it’s intended to be a loss. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2026, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-post-criminal-exposure-window-in-highsec/507274/59 "2026-02-26T20:51:12Z")
> [@Gasephed\_Sinak](#): > > Perhaps it’s intended Accumulating wisdom seems to be a long journey for you specifically but this realization and public admission of it proves you have a chance of getting there… eventually. 🤔 > [@Gasephed\_Sinak](#): > > Ganking is imbalanced an without risk. ![|100%x100%](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/2/9/d29b2ee9af89d586eff1b1b73ed6aaded13eec51.gif) :ccpguard: ---
**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2026, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-post-criminal-exposure-window-in-highsec/507274/60 "2026-02-26T21:08:59Z")
> [@Gasephed\_Sinak](#): > > Ganking is imbalanced an without risk. I have yet to hear a compelling case for this statement. Just repeating yourself isn’t an argument. ---
**Author:** ![Gasephed\_Sinak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gasephed_sinak/32/478207_2.png) [@Gasephed\_Sinak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gasephed_Sinak)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2026, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-post-criminal-exposure-window-in-highsec/507274/61 "2026-02-26T21:32:18Z")
> [@Namdor](#): > > hear a compelling case * * * > [@Proposal: Post-Criminal Exposure Window in Highsec red\_square](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-post-criminal-exposure-window-in-highsec/507274): > > This is not a proposal to remove highsec ganking. It is a proposal to introduce meaningful reciprocity. Right now, highsec suicide ganking is mechanically clean: The aggressor chooses the time and target. CONCORD guarantees destruction. The hull loss is pre-budgeted. The event resolves and resets. There is no sustained exposure beyond the single engagement. Suggested change: After a criminal kill in highsec, the attacking character receives a temporary “Empire Marked” status for a fixed d… * * * ---
**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2026, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-post-criminal-exposure-window-in-highsec/507274/62 "2026-02-26T21:33:28Z")
Barely a case, let alone a compelling one. And begging the question, with respect to the assertion that ganking is imbalanced. You don’t actually _make_ that argument, you start with that assumption and present your solution. ---
**Author:** ![Gasephed\_Sinak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gasephed_sinak/32/478207_2.png) [@Gasephed\_Sinak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gasephed_Sinak)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2026, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-post-criminal-exposure-window-in-highsec/507274/63 "2026-02-26T21:34:42Z")
> [@Namdor](#): > > Barely a case You know what they say about opinions? ---
**Author:** ![Malak\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/malak_starfire/32/501915_2.png) [@Malak\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Malak_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2026, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-post-criminal-exposure-window-in-highsec/507274/64 "2026-02-26T21:36:16Z")
“Hauling has no risk because I pre-budgeted the loss”…is basically what your “argument” says, but put on the other side. ISK lost is still ISK lost. ---
**Author:** ![Namdor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/namdor/32/396179_2.png) [@Namdor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Namdor)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2026, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-post-criminal-exposure-window-in-highsec/507274/65 "2026-02-26T21:36:41Z")
It’s.. not an opinion. The post doesn’t even discuss the balance of ganking, it just proceeds to your solution for whatever problem it is you’re imagining. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-post-criminal-exposure-window-in-highsec/507274.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/proposal-post-criminal-exposure-window-in-highsec/507274.md?page=4)