# Protection for newbies required **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 28, 2018, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886 "2018-09-28T20:29:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Kilon\_Alios](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kilon_alios/32/143258_2.png) [@Kilon\_Alios](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kilon_Alios)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/344 "2018-10-08T11:03:42Z")
26… WHAT ??? O\_O Oh well maybe he loves wasting money and ISK ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/345 "2018-10-08T11:05:50Z")
> [@Markus\_Reinhart](#): > > This morning he decided it would be a great idea to solo Tama in his 4 bil Kronos with a 4 bil pod. I love this game. I love you all, come to daddy Mevatla for a gecko hug. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/346 "2018-10-08T11:40:24Z")
Why not: “Steal as much ISK as possible.” 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Kilon\_Alios](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kilon_alios/32/143258_2.png) [@Kilon\_Alios](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kilon_Alios)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/347 "2018-10-08T11:49:26Z")
whatever rocks your boat, its a game, there is no proper way of playing it. I got nothing against scammers and pirates. Both are very easy to avoid. If they were not, I probably would 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/348 "2018-10-08T15:33:41Z")
> [@Markus\_Reinhart](#): > > So far he lost 26 bil in one week Lol, pay2win EVE style ---
**Author:** ![Choking\_Coyote](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/choking_coyote/32/83337_2.png) [@Choking\_Coyote](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Choking_Coyote)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/349 "2018-10-08T20:48:37Z")
Sounds more like Pay2Lose… ---
**Author:** ![Markus\_Reinhart](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/markus_reinhart/32/133706_2.png) [@Markus\_Reinhart](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Markus_Reinhart)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2018, 10:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/350 "2018-10-08T22:02:43Z")
It’s p2laugh They pay, we laugh. ---
**Author:** ![Gaius\_Mileghere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaius_mileghere/32/258417_2.png) [@Gaius\_Mileghere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaius_Mileghere)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/351 "2018-10-09T11:24:21Z")
OP: Farmville is that way --\> ---
**Author:** ![Gaius\_Mileghere](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gaius_mileghere/32/258417_2.png) [@Gaius\_Mileghere](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gaius_Mileghere)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/352 "2018-10-09T11:31:46Z")
My PVP alt has 35.81bill (68 ships) in kills versus 118.67mill (34 ships) in losses. I only fly her in public fleets. I only fly her in t1 hulls. I only fly her with t1 drones. With the exception of damage control units, I only fly her with t1 fits. How do I maintain a 99.7% isk efficiency? FLY CHEAP. Fly as if (as is extremely likely) that ship is not coming back. When you get podded, write “GF” in local and look forward to the next fleet. My PVP toon is funded by my industrial toon. They have relevant skillsets for what they do. PVP doesn’t need mining skills. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/353 "2018-10-09T11:44:03Z")
Now divide that board by the number of ships on each kill… or even better by the damage ratio you actually achieved per kill, since if you are flying that cheap you probably didn’t contribute as much damage as other people. And that isk efficiency is certain to look nowhere near as good. It’ll still be green I’m sure, but claiming the whole value of every kill really doesn’t work. (Nor does claiming part value of a single shot on a titan etc) ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/354 "2018-10-09T13:15:15Z")
Yeah but if the killboard would work that way it would basically just be full of CODE. on top as some stats from Geflon that compensated for that have shown couple years ago. That would really hurt some F1-warrior feelings. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/355 "2018-10-09T13:16:29Z")
It would yeah. I do remember those stats. Showed how few alliances were actually over 50%. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/356 "2018-10-09T13:18:27Z")
I was like #46 or something around there, and I’m just a filthy casual. Really makes you think. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/357 "2018-10-09T13:20:26Z")
That said… Ganking is obviously going to be one of the greenest Kb activities. For a bunch of reasons I’m sure you know. Right alongside trade hub wardecs. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2018, 1:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/358 "2018-10-09T13:22:34Z")
Because it’s elite PvP 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2018, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/359 "2018-10-14T15:34:05Z")
there is nothing like that…there is only cheaters paradise… ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2018, 3:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/360 "2018-10-14T15:46:46Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > there is nothing like that…there is only cheaters paradise… The butt hurt is strong with this one 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2018, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/361 "2018-10-14T19:09:25Z")
There is not a problem in his or her butt hurt, the problem is the damage that you have caused ccps financial balance and revenue, that’s the reason for all these changes occurring to Eve lately. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2018, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/362 "2018-10-14T19:20:55Z")
As you know, because you where reading the thread of the takeover, EVE is financially in a very good place for CCP and whatever changes you referring to have nothing to do with it. How is dual universe BTW? Still boring so you have to troll here? ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Chicken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_chicken/32/45651_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Chicken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Chicken)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2018, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/363 "2018-10-14T19:44:34Z")
LOL this thread delivers. How many years do you think the carebears will wait for PA to come save them? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886.md?page=14) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886.md?page=16)