# Protection for newbies required **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 28, 2018, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886 "2018-09-28T20:29:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![Estuary\_Algaert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/estuary_algaert/32/27420_2.png) [@Estuary\_Algaert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Estuary_Algaert)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/485 "2018-10-17T16:45:26Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > Then “the whole point of eve” needs to be updated to 2018 Why, the point is freedom to do as you can. - Make an empire - Burn one down - Make friends - Betray someone - Go on a grand adventure - Sit in station - Be a Diplomat - Be a Tyrant - Be the power “behind the throne” - Be a spy - Be (mostly) anything The catch has always been, can you. A lot of games allow you to say, you do something… here you can show you can… why change that? ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/486 "2018-10-17T16:46:49Z")
Don’t forget whining on forums ---
**Author:** ![Estuary\_Algaert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/estuary_algaert/32/27420_2.png) [@Estuary\_Algaert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Estuary_Algaert)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/487 "2018-10-17T16:49:11Z")
That is an out of game activity, and is not exclusive to this game… if Minesweeper had a forum ( I should Google that… ) there is likely to be whining. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/488 "2018-10-17T16:50:43Z")
> [@Galaxy\_Chicken](#): > > Though, if I’m in an introverted mood and just feel like 'sploding some noobs and going about my day, It’s not as if I’ve done some egregious disservice to the game Egregious disservice to the game? Certainly not. Proving the point that most PVPers are chickenshit gankers? Absolutely. EVE is the only game I can think of where “'sploding some noobs” is said with pride. Yet you’d be the first to cry when hunted down and killed over and over. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/489 "2018-10-17T16:52:21Z")
Sure, but you can do it in local too. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/490 "2018-10-17T16:52:25Z")
> [@Estuary\_Algaert](#): > > Go on a grand adventure Jumping, Jumping, jumping… zzzzz 😪 ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/491 "2018-10-17T16:53:27Z")
We all cry when someone hurt us… ---
**Author:** ![Estuary\_Algaert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/estuary_algaert/32/27420_2.png) [@Estuary\_Algaert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Estuary_Algaert)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/492 "2018-10-17T16:54:09Z")
true… ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/493 "2018-10-17T16:55:29Z")
Then don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Balos\_Tritapo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/balos_tritapo/32/89875_2.png) [@Balos\_Tritapo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Balos_Tritapo)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/494 "2018-10-17T17:00:00Z")
> [@Estuary\_Algaert](#): > > Why, the point is freedom to do as you can. freedom just for PVP is none in 2018 ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/495 "2018-10-17T17:01:35Z")
Hum, but you can’t enforce that without crawling and begging someone to do it for you. Therefore… you are screwed. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/496 "2018-10-17T17:03:54Z")
Indeed. The vast majority of my eve time is spent in industry. I do very little pvp. But i understand how non-consensual pvp is instrumental to my game. Without it, what i do is meaningless and unengaging. ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Chicken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_chicken/32/45651_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Chicken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Chicken)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/497 "2018-10-17T17:05:45Z")
> [@Mr\_Epeen](#): > > EVE is the only game I can think of where “'sploding some noobs” is said with pride. It’s also the only game where I can harvest quality tears like this. Thanks CCP! \<3 ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/498 "2018-10-17T17:05:47Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > Then “the whole point of eve” needs to be updated to 2018…we don’t have 2003 anymore… This makes no sense. It’s not a generation gap. I am, technically, a millenial. If you want a game that is not eve, why don’t you not play eve? Surely if the future of gaming is not eve, then make and play other games. Elite? Star citizen? There’s no need to take an established and working game and run it into the ground by alienating the only players keeping it going… Why do you play eve? Honest question. ---
**Author:** ![Estuary\_Algaert](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/estuary_algaert/32/27420_2.png) [@Estuary\_Algaert](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Estuary_Algaert)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/499 "2018-10-17T17:07:54Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > ![](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/estuary_algaert/40/27420_1.png) Estuary\_Algaert: > > > Why, the point is freedom to do as you can. > > freedom just for PVP is none in 2018 I said nothing about PVP, I would love to have **more** freedom in PVP, it is by far the more restrictive activity. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/500 "2018-10-17T17:20:42Z")
What happened with a saying that everything in EVE is PvP? ---
**Author:** ![Zeek\_the\_Sneak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zeek_the_sneak/32/101111_2.png) [@Zeek\_the\_Sneak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zeek_the_Sneak)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/501 "2018-10-17T17:24:13Z")
the exciting part is knowing the risk is there and doing the thinking it takes to avoid the danger, not doing things in an unsafe way and hoping for the best. i’m not sure why one would move all their stuff from one place to another, but my understanding is that there are corporations which do just that, and are probably a lot better at it that than i would be… ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/502 "2018-10-17T17:28:03Z")
Hi Zeek, i know you are a new player interested in stealth pewpew among other things, check this link: [https://totaleve.com/](https://totaleve.com/) and particularly the useful information links. You’ll find plenty of useful stuff Fly safe And check those too: [https://eve-scout.com/](https://eve-scout.com/) [https://www.pathfinder-w.space/](https://www.pathfinder-w.space/) [https://tripwire.eve-apps.com/](https://tripwire.eve-apps.com/) ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/503 "2018-10-17T17:34:30Z")
> [@Zeek\_the\_Sneak](#): > > doing the thinking it takes to avoid the danger Logical thinking, but… EVE is something completely different, sometimes there is little logic there. Like in case of gas that cant be compresed, and ores that can. But I digress. As you are new, you may be not knowing many things, there are traps in PvP. For example this: > **[BLACK OPS GUIDE - INN](https://imperium.news/black-ops-guide/)** > > A peaceful ratter sits in a site deep in sovereignty nullsec. He’s been happily ratting for quite some… ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/504 "2018-10-17T17:38:08Z")
It literally says right at the beginning, ‘guy enters local. Ratter is a moron and does nothing.’ [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886.md?page=21) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886.md?page=23)