# Protection for newbies required **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 28, 2018, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886 "2018-09-28T20:29:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/525 "2018-10-18T11:30:39Z")
EVE will stay a PvP no matter how hard you cry and no matter how many times you repeat it. I hope that is clear to you. I wonder how long it will take for you to understand that non oft the changes you are waiting for are ever coming ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/527 "2018-10-18T11:39:11Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > This is ■■■■■■■■ because there is no proof that another approach does not work…they simply tell you that for 15 years but that does not make it true… You need to demonstrate that you know how the economy works under current conditions before spouting shite. In addition I’d like to see an explanation of how a functional economy would operate under the constraints that you wish to see implemented in hisec, please include market forces and drivers; also graphs, graphs are good. :nods: ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/528 "2018-10-18T11:44:09Z")
Not defending him, but you’re setting the bar too high. We’re literally talking about basic mathematics that easily shows he’s wrong, so give him the chance of offering you a response he is capable of, instead of artificially demanding an answer that’s way beyond what’s needed. You’re just hurting the point you are trying to make, offering him an easy way out. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/529 "2018-10-18T11:48:02Z")
> [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > so give him the chance of offering you a response he is capable of, Single syllables then? 😛 Yeah the second part of my post probably does set the bar too high, but when people are demanding a change to something so core to the game such a request isn’t out of line. ---
**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/530 "2018-10-18T11:49:29Z")
> [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > once you learn that CCP doesn’t give a rats ass about PVPers and Solecist Project … I fixed 4U awwwww no need to thx 😘 ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/532 "2018-10-18T11:51:41Z")
I can garentee you that in a year you will either have accepted that no change is coming or you will still be here saying the exact same thing because nothing happened. And dual universe will still be a tech demo with zero gameplay. Some things never change ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/533 "2018-10-18T11:53:50Z")
> [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > How’s the feeling of hiding behind alts and your daddy’s back, loser? My dad showed me how to run and hide; but only after kicking the bullies in the nuts, followed by a knee to the nose. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/534 "2018-10-18T11:54:25Z")
I just think people are too sure here about what CCP is going to do. ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 11:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/535 "2018-10-18T11:55:58Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > Loss is essential for keeping demand at certain level. But nowhere is said that it have to be veteran players killing noobs in high sec. > > You and I have seen people defending many things in EVE, that then were completely removed or changed. Balos isn’t talking about new players. He’s talking about removing all forms of non-consensual pvp in hi-sec. The coming months/years may afford us with more tools to avoid wardecs (like social corps or a structure based dec) but for obvious reasons, non-consensual pvp has to stay. Even in hi sec. No matter what year it is. ---
**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/536 "2018-10-18T11:56:02Z")
BTW his do we call this people? There are some of them now and it’s not just alts. They don’t play EVE but it’s their hobby to troll on the forums for a more secure game because they can’t handle competitive games so every single one of them has to go away. My suggestion is “trollflake” ---
**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/537 "2018-10-18T11:56:41Z")
> [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > How’s the feeling of hiding behind alts and your daddy’s back, loser? I have no problem with that, my rich daddy is much stronger than yours. kissy kissy 😘 ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/538 "2018-10-18T11:57:10Z")
UPC’s? u for unicorns… ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/539 "2018-10-18T11:57:50Z")
It’s easy to predict that what the haters want isn’t going to happen, because the economy doesn’t work like that. There’s no way of changing that. If they turned off wardecs without replacement, they’ll have a really bad time. This isn’t rocket science, Nana. ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/541 "2018-10-18T11:59:08Z")
Daddy, daddy, there are mean people on the internet that mock me… baddies bad bad ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/542 "2018-10-18T11:59:39Z")
Why is it our fault that these people suck at Eve? ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/544 "2018-10-18T12:00:32Z")
your existence is the undeniable proof they suck. You must dissapear. ---
**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/545 "2018-10-18T12:01:28Z")
No need to worry my daddy will take care about baddies and fix this game for me, my daddy love me and will do it for me 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/546 "2018-10-18T12:02:38Z")
> [@Balos\_Tritapo](#): > > > [@Daichi\_Yamato](#): > > > > Unfortunately for you, it’s essential to the economy and risk/reward philosophy eve is built around. > > > > Why do you play eve? Honest question. > > This is ■■■■■■■■ because there is no proof that another approach does not work…they simply tell you that for 15 years but that does not make it true… They don’t just simply tell us that. We see it working every day. CCP release the MER each month and players go through it and break it down. Eve players are hobby economists, some professional economists. If you can put forward a logical suggestion go for it. Theres a section of the forum for it. But you have to put a bit of thought into your posts there. Aimlessly whining isn’t helping anyone. And praying that the new owners, makers of another pvp sandbox, are going to do what you want doesn’t look good either. Why do you play eve? Honest question. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/547 "2018-10-18T12:04:20Z")
So you admit that you suck as a human being? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/protection-for-newbies-required/109886/548 "2018-10-18T12:05:26Z")
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