# PSA: Project Awakening

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/psa-project-awakening/442864>\
**Category:** Out Of Pod Experience\
**Created:** [March 13, 2024, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/psa-project-awakening/442864 "2024-03-13T20:38:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rail\_J\_kar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rail_j_kar/32/374429_2.png) [@Rail\_J\_kar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rail_J_kar)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/psa-project-awakening/442864/41 "2024-03-14T08:40:43Z")

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Interesting fantasy you live in. Who’s alt are you?

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**Author:** ![Dchill](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dchill/32/408523_2.png) [@Dchill](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dchill)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/psa-project-awakening/442864/42 "2024-03-14T08:41:15Z")

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If im not living in a fantasy then you are. But i wont hold it against you

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**Author:** ![Rail\_J\_kar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rail_j_kar/32/374429_2.png) [@Rail\_J\_kar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rail_J_kar)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 8:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/psa-project-awakening/442864/43 "2024-03-14T08:48:10Z")

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I thought you said you were leaving, why are you still here?

> [@Should life be harder for gankers?](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/should-life-be-harder-for-gankers/440832/8):
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> What should i do now? Should i create a new character for the forum? I think i will just leave. But for the record i for one dont like ganker salt or carebear tears. Bye

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**Author:** ![Dchill](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dchill/32/408523_2.png) [@Dchill](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dchill)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/psa-project-awakening/442864/44 "2024-03-14T08:49:01Z")

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Why are you trying to change the subject?

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**Author:** ![Rail\_J\_kar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rail_j_kar/32/374429_2.png) [@Rail\_J\_kar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rail_J_kar)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/psa-project-awakening/442864/45 "2024-03-14T08:50:09Z")

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Thanks for confirmation. I wasn’t entirely sure you were the same person, but that seals it.

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**Author:** ![Dchill](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dchill/32/408523_2.png) [@Dchill](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dchill)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/psa-project-awakening/442864/46 "2024-03-14T08:50:43Z")

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Im not sure what the problem is, but its all good. Have a nice day.

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**Author:** ![Rail\_J\_kar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rail_j_kar/32/374429_2.png) [@Rail\_J\_kar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rail_J_kar)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 9:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/psa-project-awakening/442864/47 "2024-03-14T09:07:52Z")

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As to the op:

from [Project Awakening: First Details Revealed](https://www.projectawakening.io/news/project-awakening-first-details-revealed)

> Powered by the Carbon Development Platform and MUD by Lattice, CCP Games is creating a persistent world bound by digital physics, where composability and programmability will enable players to build and collaborate on top, outside of and within the emergent game environment - unlocking boundless creativity for third-party development via blockchain technology and cryptography.

This also means that ship geometry might end up being pretty dynamic, allowing for players to design their ships in a similar way to Avorion. That kind of seems difficult to manage with the carbon framework, but I guess we’ll see how it all unfolds.

> the next closed playtest starting May 21, 2024. PHASE III will allow players to engage with programmable game systems and build their own features and functionality within the world.

It seems like the game will be designed as a frame work for 3rd party development to implement their own ideas into the game and potentially get paid for that development (which was something Hilmar talked about in that interview I linked above.)

And of course, maybe even the biggest piece of news:

> As part of today’s news, CCP Games is also excited to announce its commitment to making the Carbon Development Platform open source, allowing programmers and game developers to access the Carbon game engine framework and additional components for free.

So no one needs to be concerned about api licenses.

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**Author:** ![Dchill](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dchill/32/408523_2.png) [@Dchill](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dchill)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/psa-project-awakening/442864/48 "2024-03-14T09:20:39Z")

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I was about to say earlier that open source is pretty much anti-NDA and lot of tech runs on open source software. So claiming NDA is standard industry practice as if thats a good defense of NDA seems silly.

Someone also seemed to talk sense into CCP in this regard, considering they are open sourcing the carbon framework and components? But thats the engine that runs EVE Online and its clunky from a player viewpoint, probably also a developer viewpoint? Maybe open-sourcing parts of it, can make way for some substantial improvements 🙂 Lets see

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/psa-project-awakening/442864/49 "2024-03-14T09:40:26Z")

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> [@Dchill](#):
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> nothing has come out yet, not even a name, for the next EVE Expansion

I think it is going to be Aikotopia.

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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/psa-project-awakening/442864/51 "2024-03-14T10:21:36Z")

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I’m actually curious how high this will pump, how fast it will die and how much collateral damage it will cause in that few months.

🍿

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/psa-project-awakening/442864/52 "2024-03-14T11:44:03Z")

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During the initial playtest in May, an NDA would probably have to be signed. No different than ISDs or CSMs. They sign NDAs as well.

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**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/psa-project-awakening/442864/53 "2024-03-14T11:49:23Z")

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> [@Rail\_J\_kar](#):
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> If you don’t like it fine, you don’t have to.

What is not liked is the frequent distractions to core product development. Board games, VR, next there will be a trading card game and a mobile app with Gatcha mechanics, except in Belgium where loot boxes are illegal.

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**Author:** ![Rail\_J\_kar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rail_j_kar/32/374429_2.png) [@Rail\_J\_kar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rail_J_kar)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/psa-project-awakening/442864/54 "2024-03-14T11:53:10Z")

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> [@Eloken\_Toralen](#):
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> What is not liked is the frequent distractions to core product development.

Once again, different dev team, outside funding. Stop complaining.

I can forgive the initial ignorance, but when people keep telling you guys it wont take funding away from EVE, maybe give it a rest. You look rather foolish when you keep harping on it.

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 11:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/psa-project-awakening/442864/55 "2024-03-14T11:53:41Z")

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Different teams can work on different projects you know that right?

The team in london is working on vanguard not the iceland team.

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**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/psa-project-awakening/442864/56 "2024-03-14T11:56:50Z")

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> [@Rail\_J\_kar](#):
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> I can forgive the initial ignorance, but when people keep telling you guys it wont take funding away from EVE, maybe give it a rest. You look rather foolish when you keep harping on it.

Is it being developed by CCP or not? If it is, it is a distraction, if it is not, why is it even posted on this forum?

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**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/psa-project-awakening/442864/57 "2024-03-14T11:57:53Z")

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> [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](#):
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> The team in london is working on vanguard not the iceland team.

Vanguard is another distraction. Nobody is overtaking HD2 or Escape From ‘Wiggle Me Timbers’ Tarkov anytime soon.

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**Author:** ![Rail\_J\_kar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rail_j_kar/32/374429_2.png) [@Rail\_J\_kar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rail_J_kar)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/psa-project-awakening/442864/58 "2024-03-14T11:58:12Z")

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> [@Eloken\_Toralen](#):
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> Is it being developed by CCP or not? If it is, it is a distraction,

Once again, different dev team, outside funding.

Do you understand what those words mean?

> [@Eloken\_Toralen](#):
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> why is it even posted on this forum?

Take it up with the op.

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/psa-project-awakening/442864/59 "2024-03-14T12:01:42Z")

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Apparently Eloken/dchill/westfarhn thinks every single ccp dev should be on eve online and nothing else.

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**Author:** ![Rail\_J\_kar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rail_j_kar/32/374429_2.png) [@Rail\_J\_kar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rail_J_kar)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 12:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/psa-project-awakening/442864/60 "2024-03-14T12:02:21Z")

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The world is full of ignorant people.

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/psa-project-awakening/442864/61 "2024-03-14T12:31:05Z")

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> [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](#):
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> Eloken/dchill/westfarhn

On this point I must make a correction  
I concur that there is misdirection  
Eloken sounds like a bell  
That rings like REDACTED REDACTED  
The others have more alts I could mention

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