# Public Pathfinder closing - move to EveWayfinder.app by 2026/09/13

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/public-pathfinder-closing-move-to-evewayfinder-app-by-2026-09-13/465858>\
**Category:** Services\
**Tags:** wormhole\
**Created:** [October 25, 2024, 10:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/public-pathfinder-closing-move-to-evewayfinder-app-by-2026-09-13/465858 "2024-10-25T22:50:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![EvePlanetsApp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eveplanetsapp/32/438249_2.png) [@EvePlanetsApp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/EvePlanetsApp)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2024, 10:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/public-pathfinder-closing-move-to-evewayfinder-app-by-2026-09-13/465858/1 "2024-10-25T22:50:47Z")

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**Public Pathfinder is shutting down 2026/09/13.** Everyone needs to export their maps for import into another Pathfinder instance, or preferably into my new mapper.

Say hello to Wayfinder

> **[Wayfinder — a wormhole mapper you don't host](https://evewayfinder.app?og=1)**
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> A hosted wormhole mapper for EVE Online. Shared chains, signatures, and intel. You log in. We already did the rest.

Ever since I rebuilt part of Pathfinder to run on a multi-server backend, I kept thinking there had to be a better way to do this. Running into the problem of importing the new gates and systems forced me to act.

I’ll get into more details in a future, dedicated thread on Wayfinder. But the important thing for now is that Wayfinder can import backups from Pathfinder, the design was largely inspired by Pathfinder, and from the backend it operates like I wished I could have done to Pathfinder.

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**2026/06/02 - New Private Instances are paused for now**

Given the recent shake ups in both public and private hosting of mapping software, I decided to take my 30+ years of bending servers and systems to my will and see if I could get my favorite one running the way I would prefer…

[https://pathfinder.eveplanets.app/ - Public Pathfinder by EvePlanets.App](https://pathfinder.eveplanets.app/)

**(Private Instances now available, see bottom of this post)**

Tech changes below, but let’s focus on a couple of front-end updates…

**Thera routing**  
I’m told this is broken in some Pathfinder builds? Well, this was my view from Jita earlier today.

 ![TheraRoutingExample](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/7/6/276ef13495e36f3b649a45f975d3ca5af0984428.png)

**Integration with EvePlanets.App**  
Roaming around looking for your next PI system? One click straight into our PI info site.  
 ![PFEvePlanetsExample](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/1/5/a15c3cb9fdc8245767ebb856a15804af56cb64e2.png)

**PRIVATE INSTANCES**

Based on positive feedback, I’m now offering private Pathfinder instances that include these updates. Recurring monthly fee is **1 billion ISK.** Or save up to 2 billion ISK annually by paying in 6 or 12-month increments.

For very large corps or alliances desiring a more powerful instance for improved performance, custom options are available.

**PRIVATE INSTANCE EXCLUSIVE FEATURES**

**WebSocket support**  
An existing experimental add-on for Pathfinder. Valuable when you have multiple pilots working in the same corp or alliance map at the same time.  
 ![PFWebSocketExample](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/8/b/38ba02e2cda05d46eee60f2f17b83a2bb6522187.png)

o7

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**Author:** ![EvePlanetsApp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eveplanetsapp/32/438249_2.png) [@EvePlanetsApp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/EvePlanetsApp)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2024, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/public-pathfinder-closing-move-to-evewayfinder-app-by-2026-09-13/465858/2 "2024-10-25T22:51:18Z")

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Some of the tech changes I made. Not sure how this compares with other Pathfinder instances, except that these are not things the core package expects:

- Running on PHP 8.3 and nginx
- Updated several underlying modules for PHP 8.3 support
- Also corrected errors in some underlying modules
- Web server, cache, and database are all distinct servers allowing scale as needed
- Web server fully restarts during Eve downtime for best performance

Private instances enjoy all of these features, plus

- WebSocket support for improved performance with active Corps and Alliances

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**Author:** ![EvePlanetsApp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eveplanetsapp/32/438249_2.png) [@EvePlanetsApp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/EvePlanetsApp)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/public-pathfinder-closing-move-to-evewayfinder-app-by-2026-09-13/465858/3 "2024-11-02T21:47:35Z")

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Added info on Private Instances.

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**Author:** ![EvePlanetsApp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eveplanetsapp/32/438249_2.png) [@EvePlanetsApp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/EvePlanetsApp)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/public-pathfinder-closing-move-to-evewayfinder-app-by-2026-09-13/465858/4 "2024-11-13T23:47:43Z")

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Announced flexible private instance pricing based on corp/alliance size.

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**Author:** ![EvePlanetsApp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eveplanetsapp/32/438249_2.png) [@EvePlanetsApp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/EvePlanetsApp)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2024, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/public-pathfinder-closing-move-to-evewayfinder-app-by-2026-09-13/465858/5 "2024-11-15T23:05:39Z")

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More than doubled the CPUs and RAM available across the cluster for private instances. Let the inquires keep coming…

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**Author:** ![EvePlanetsApp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eveplanetsapp/32/438249_2.png) [@EvePlanetsApp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/EvePlanetsApp)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/public-pathfinder-closing-move-to-evewayfinder-app-by-2026-09-13/465858/6 "2024-11-22T16:13:33Z")

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Recently threw a few more cores at the cluster to increase slots for private instances.

If your recommended public Pathfinder isn’t responding, give me a try instead. Then consider upgrading to a private instance! My option for pricing by corp/alliance member count can get small to medium sized groups started at a lower price point than other options. And for medium to large groups, I offer fixed instance pricing.

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**Author:** ![EvePlanetsApp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eveplanetsapp/32/438249_2.png) [@EvePlanetsApp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/EvePlanetsApp)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2024, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/public-pathfinder-closing-move-to-evewayfinder-app-by-2026-09-13/465858/7 "2024-12-03T17:53:30Z")

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Added more details about instance pricing options.

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**Author:** ![Samantha\_Oleriesteti](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/samantha_oleriesteti/32/443721_2.png) [@Samantha\_Oleriesteti](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Samantha_Oleriesteti)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/public-pathfinder-closing-move-to-evewayfinder-app-by-2026-09-13/465858/8 "2024-12-11T00:05:07Z")

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I love it. I use this a lot, and make it easy to map my way through wormholes, and back to my home system. I don’t need a pen and paper anymore ! Highly recommended.

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**Author:** ![Vivianne\_Athonille](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vivianne_athonille/32/512723_2.png) [@Vivianne\_Athonille](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vivianne_Athonille)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 4:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/public-pathfinder-closing-move-to-evewayfinder-app-by-2026-09-13/465858/9 "2024-12-11T04:04:01Z")

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Only used other public Pathfinders until they recently shut down or could not be reached, so we gave this one a try when it appeared. Worked out well enough, so we looked into our own private Pathfinder once the flexible pricing was announced. We got a price that was about half of other options, so we took it and haven’t looked back!

10/10 would recommend

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**Author:** ![EvePlanetsApp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eveplanetsapp/32/438249_2.png) [@EvePlanetsApp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/EvePlanetsApp)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 2:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/public-pathfinder-closing-move-to-evewayfinder-app-by-2026-09-13/465858/10 "2024-12-22T02:34:14Z")

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Further reduction in private instance pricing as scale is improving.

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**Author:** ![EvePlanetsApp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eveplanetsapp/32/438249_2.png) [@EvePlanetsApp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/EvePlanetsApp)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/public-pathfinder-closing-move-to-evewayfinder-app-by-2026-09-13/465858/11 "2024-12-24T18:43:34Z")

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**Holiday Special now through 1 January 2025.** Setup fee waived for private instances and first monthly payment due at the start of January!

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**Author:** ![Fleischsalatinspace](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/fleischsalatinspace/32/374558_2.png) [@Fleischsalatinspace](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Fleischsalatinspace)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2024, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/public-pathfinder-closing-move-to-evewayfinder-app-by-2026-09-13/465858/12 "2024-12-31T12:32:39Z")

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As of today my retired public Pathfinder instance redirects to @EvePlanetsApp forum thread. I want to think EvePlanetsApp for offering the wormhole community a public Pathfinder instance free for everyone to use.

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**Author:** ![EvePlanetsApp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eveplanetsapp/32/438249_2.png) [@EvePlanetsApp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/EvePlanetsApp)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2025, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/public-pathfinder-closing-move-to-evewayfinder-app-by-2026-09-13/465858/13 "2025-01-01T00:07:09Z")

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In response to this latest endorsement, I’m happy to announce the following changes –

- I’ve thrown a little more power behind the public Pathfinder. Enjoy!
- I’m continuing the offer to waive setup fees for private instances until the start of February!

o7

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**Author:** ![EvePlanetsApp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eveplanetsapp/32/438249_2.png) [@EvePlanetsApp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/EvePlanetsApp)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/public-pathfinder-closing-move-to-evewayfinder-app-by-2026-09-13/465858/14 "2025-01-10T19:45:27Z")

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Due to some technical issues, WebSocket support is now exclusively available for private instances. The public Pathfinder will only use the Ajax methods that most everyone is accustomed to.

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**Author:** ![EvePlanetsApp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eveplanetsapp/32/438249_2.png) [@EvePlanetsApp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/EvePlanetsApp)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2025, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/public-pathfinder-closing-move-to-evewayfinder-app-by-2026-09-13/465858/15 "2025-01-19T18:50:38Z")

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Brought more private instances up recently and still have plenty of capacity available. Setup fees remain waived until 1st February!

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**Author:** ![EvePlanetsApp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eveplanetsapp/32/438249_2.png) [@EvePlanetsApp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/EvePlanetsApp)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2025, 3:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/public-pathfinder-closing-move-to-evewayfinder-app-by-2026-09-13/465858/16 "2025-01-23T03:29:11Z")

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Special thanks to Nokane Sunji for reporting a bug with the Thera routing. All systems with connections to Thera were incorrectly showing security 0.0 regardless of actual security.

A fix has been deployed to the public Pathfinder and after some more careful review will be applied to private instances soon.

o7

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**Author:** ![Nokane\_Sunji](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nokane_sunji/32/389701_2.png) [@Nokane\_Sunji](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nokane_Sunji)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2025, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/public-pathfinder-closing-move-to-evewayfinder-app-by-2026-09-13/465858/17 "2025-01-24T20:56:16Z")

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Great service and outstanding support! 10/10

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**Author:** ![EvePlanetsApp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eveplanetsapp/32/438249_2.png) [@EvePlanetsApp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/EvePlanetsApp)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 5:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/public-pathfinder-closing-move-to-evewayfinder-app-by-2026-09-13/465858/18 "2025-02-04T05:05:21Z")

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Redis cache was ganked and podded about an hour ago. Clone has been activated. May be injecting some new skills soon…

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**Author:** ![EvePlanetsApp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eveplanetsapp/32/438249_2.png) [@EvePlanetsApp](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/EvePlanetsApp)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2025, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/public-pathfinder-closing-move-to-evewayfinder-app-by-2026-09-13/465858/19 "2025-02-04T20:38:35Z")

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Purchased, injected and trained new skill “Redis Enterprise”. Expecting the resist profile of our new Tech II Cache Server to better tank whatever happened yesterday.

As a bonus, we are seeing improved performance across all Pathfinder instances, public and private!

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**Author:** ![Clive\_Scott](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clive_scott/32/448171_2.png) [@Clive\_Scott](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clive_Scott)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2025, 2:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/public-pathfinder-closing-move-to-evewayfinder-app-by-2026-09-13/465858/20 "2025-02-16T02:15:46Z")

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need help with installation without Docker

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