# Punish Pirates in high sec

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Tags:** pve, high-sec\
**Created:** [February 13, 2022, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712 "2022-02-13T10:21:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 12

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**Author:** ![L\_Amour](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/l_amour/32/305482_2.png) [@L\_Amour](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/L_Amour)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 1:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/227 "2022-02-16T13:57:38Z")

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> [@Michal\_Somebody](#):
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> Not sure that will work

Then this won’t work either:

> [@Michal\_Somebody](#):
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> Just make players with low standings permanently red in high-sec and free for all to kill with no CONCORD retribution

> [@Michal\_Somebody](#):
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> declaring open season on pirates will require them to fly around in more expensive ships

In EVE it’s open season on **everybody** , no need to change game mechanics for that.  
And you will not force PvPers to fly anything but what they want to fly, all you’ll do is kill PvP in a game that is primarily PvP… kind of absurd if you ask me.

> [@Michal\_Somebody](#):
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> not just gank you in cheap PoS for giggles.

What’s wrong with ganking for giggles?? Isn’t the point of a game to have fun, ie: giggles?

All you who hate PvP I’ve got news for you:  
You’re playing the wrong game.

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**Author:** ![Michal\_Somebody](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michal_somebody/32/494799_2.png) [@Michal\_Somebody](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michal_Somebody)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/228 "2022-02-16T14:08:30Z")

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> [@L\_Amour](#):
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> In EVE it’s open season on **everybody** , no need to change game mechanics for that.  
> And you will not force PvPers to fly anything but what they want to fly, all you’ll do is kill PvP in a game that is primarily PvP… kind of absurd if you ask me.

Rrriiiggghhhttt ??? I am going to attack a skilled PvP player in high sec so CONCORD can also kill me.

But I am sure my original proposal will work. The ganker, being permanently red, will never know where the next attack will come from. Pretty much the same feeling the new players have when they enter a system full of gankers.

> [@L\_Amour](#):
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> What’s wrong with ganking for giggles?? Isn’t the point of a game to have fun, ie: giggles?

It’s not fun for the person getting ganked. Shouldn’t everyone have fun?

> [@L\_Amour](#):
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> All you who hate PvP I’ve got news for you:  
> You’re playing the wrong game.

Really? Tell that to the miners, industrialists, haulers and traders. People play the game for different reasons and have fun doing different activities. That is why high-sec exists in the first place. Grow up.

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**Author:** ![Lennox\_Dantes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lennox_dantes/32/376609_2.png) [@Lennox\_Dantes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lennox_Dantes)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/229 "2022-02-16T14:13:10Z")

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This is beautiful poetry.

Too bad CCP forgot this.

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**Author:** ![L\_Amour](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/l_amour/32/305482_2.png) [@L\_Amour](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/L_Amour)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/230 "2022-02-16T14:17:42Z")

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> [@Michal\_Somebody](#):
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> Rrriiiggghhhttt ??? I am going to attack a skilled PvP player in high sec so CONCORD can also kill me.

Don’t attack anyone in HiSec until your PvP skills are good. Meanwhile, attack them in Null, where there’s no CONCORD.

> [@Michal\_Somebody](#):
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> But I am sure my original proposal will work. The ganker, being permanently red, will never know where the next attack will come from. Pretty much the same feeling the new players have when they enter a system full of gankers

If the attacker has any skills, you don’t see where the attck comes from, whether you’re a pirate or a noob.

> [@Michal\_Somebody](#):
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> It’s not fun for the person getting ganked. Shouldn’t everyone have fun?

The person who got ganked can have his fun by ganking someone else, if only he’s willing to take the risks to learn and not remain a sheep throughout his EVE life.

> [@Michal\_Somebody](#):
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> Tell that to the miners, industrialists, haulers and traders. People play the game for different reasons and have fun doing different activities

Yes… and all of them are well aware that they are open to get attacked by PvEers and accept that they are playing a game that is primarily PvP.  
They don’t come on the forum crying about it.

> [@Michal\_Somebody](#):
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> Grow up

Never. I’m a kid at heart and will remain so until I die.

And that wasn’t necessary, by the way, but okay…

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**Author:** ![Michal\_Somebody](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michal_somebody/32/494799_2.png) [@Michal\_Somebody](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michal_Somebody)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/231 "2022-02-16T14:20:20Z")

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It’s ok kid you don’t get it. I understand.

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**Author:** ![L\_Amour](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/l_amour/32/305482_2.png) [@L\_Amour](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/L_Amour)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/232 "2022-02-16T14:21:58Z")

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Players hating PvPers in a PvP game 😅 The world _has_ indeed gone nuts 🙄

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**Author:** ![Lennox\_Dantes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lennox_dantes/32/376609_2.png) [@Lennox\_Dantes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lennox_Dantes)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/233 "2022-02-16T14:23:12Z")

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Bring back bounties.

Remove 1 week wardec timers

Absolutely remove the need for War HQ

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**Author:** ![Michal\_Somebody](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michal_somebody/32/494799_2.png) [@Michal\_Somebody](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michal_Somebody)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/234 "2022-02-16T14:23:45Z")

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It’s ok kid I know you don’t get it and you never will. I won’t hold it against you. One day you will figure it out.

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**Author:** ![L\_Amour](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/l_amour/32/305482_2.png) [@L\_Amour](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/L_Amour)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/235 "2022-02-16T14:26:56Z")

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> [@Lennox\_Dantes](#):
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> Absolutely remove the need for War HQ

Agreed. We should able to declare war on any corporation regardless of how many members or whatever. If they’re a corporation they should be wardeccable anytime anyhow.  
Those corporations who hide in NPC stations are isk-hungry cowards.

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**Author:** ![Michal\_Somebody](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/michal_somebody/32/494799_2.png) [@Michal\_Somebody](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Michal_Somebody)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/236 "2022-02-16T14:32:15Z")

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> [@L\_Amour](#):
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> Agreed. We should able to declare war on any corporation regardless of how many members or whatever. If they’re a corporation they should be wardeccable anytime anyhow.  
> Those corporations who hide in NPC stations are isk-hungry cowards.

Oh how little you know. Not all “corps” hanging out in high-sec stations chase ISK. WoW took a big knock and lost a lot of players including some “Goldshire” folks. Like I said you just don’t get it.

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**Author:** ![Frege\_Descartes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/frege_descartes/32/247951_2.png) [@Frege\_Descartes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Frege_Descartes)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/237 "2022-02-16T14:43:45Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> doubt

How does your doubt affect anything?

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**Author:** ![Frege\_Descartes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/frege_descartes/32/247951_2.png) [@Frege\_Descartes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Frege_Descartes)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/238 "2022-02-16T14:45:16Z")

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> [@L\_Amour](#):
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> what EVE is

Let’s start with a simple question. When did High SEC ganking start?

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**Author:** ![L\_Amour](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/l_amour/32/305482_2.png) [@L\_Amour](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/L_Amour)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/239 "2022-02-16T14:47:21Z")

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> [@Frege\_Descartes](#):
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> Let’s start with a simple question. When did High SEC ganking start?

Hmm 1776? 😃

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**Author:** ![Frege\_Descartes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/frege_descartes/32/247951_2.png) [@Frege\_Descartes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Frege_Descartes)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/240 "2022-02-16T14:47:37Z")

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> [@L\_Amour](#):
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> wardeccable anytime anyhow

Agreed.

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> [@L\_Amour](#):
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> are isk-hungry cowards.

Gankers. You meant, gankers.

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**Author:** ![L\_Amour](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/l_amour/32/305482_2.png) [@L\_Amour](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/L_Amour)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 2:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/241 "2022-02-16T14:49:34Z")

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@Frege_Descartes Calm down, miner.

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**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 3:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/242 "2022-02-16T15:20:55Z")

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> [@L\_Amour](#):
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> Crying about egos now

I can recommend a good psychiatrist to help you and others over your obsession with people crying…though their hypnosis sessions may reveal repressed memories of alien proctology.

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**Author:** ![L\_Amour](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/l_amour/32/305482_2.png) [@L\_Amour](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/L_Amour)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/243 "2022-02-16T15:25:03Z")

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> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#):
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> I can recommend a good psychiatrist to help you and others over your obsession with people crying

No need of a psychiatrist over a hobby. PvP is healthy and wholesome in a vidya game 😃  
You may need one, seeing how you cannot make the difference between game behavior and real-life behavior.

> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#):
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> though their hypnosis sessions may reveal repressed memories of alien proctology

You seem to know a little something about that.  
Where did the mean Aliens touch you?

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**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/244 "2022-02-16T15:31:57Z")

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> [@L\_Amour](#):
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> Where did the mean Aliens touch you?

They didn’t…but they showed me a map of the universe in which your sole zkill record is one lost Impairor yet somehow you are an expert on PvP 🙂

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**Author:** ![L\_Amour](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/l_amour/32/305482_2.png) [@L\_Amour](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/L_Amour)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/245 "2022-02-16T15:33:21Z")

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@Cilla_Cybin I never said I was an expert in PvP 🤣  
If you’re going to participate in the Forum, try to pay attention at least.

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**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/246 "2022-02-16T15:39:08Z")

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> [@L\_Amour](#):
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> I never said I was an expert in PvP

What ? A mere dozen or so posts above you have a lengthy post in which you wax lyrical with ‘advice’. I was expecting to look up zkill and see a lengthy list of kills and losses from which your expert advice was established…instead I find your sole qualification in all your time in Eve is one ship loss.

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