# Punish Pirates in high sec

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Tags:** pve, high-sec\
**Created:** [February 13, 2022, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712 "2022-02-13T10:21:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2022, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/327 "2022-04-12T20:06:30Z")

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The frontline is everywhere, as I used to remind Imperials when I murdered them in the hospital in Mos Eisley 😃

In reality, it is the player’s perception that is wrong. As has been said a billion times, high security is not total security.

If you assume everyone is trying to kill you all the time, you’ll survive a lot more 😃

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2022, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/328 "2022-04-12T20:42:02Z")

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One being another player or a group of players destroys the criminals ship.  
Sorry I am unable to think of another.

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2022, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/329 "2022-04-12T21:08:19Z")

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> [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](#):
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> Sorry I am unable to think of another.

Three I can think of, but the third would be an exploit I think:

1. Players kill the ganker before CONCORD responds
2. Sentry guns and/or Facpo kill the ganker before CONCORD responds
3. Gank is so close to downtime that the server goes down before CONCORD arrives

But, I have no clue if any of these are the ones Aiko is referring to.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2022, 9:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/330 "2022-04-12T21:53:16Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> That’s why a criminal timer is 15 minutes and not thirty years to life.

I always knew they’d one day turn Caught In Providence into a game.

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**Author:** ![Marvyn\_Nightshade](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/marvyn_nightshade/32/455724_2.png) [@Marvyn\_Nightshade](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Marvyn_Nightshade)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/331 "2022-04-13T07:10:25Z")

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> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#):
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> to be fair the real police is reactive to  
> if a crack head enter a house and do some bad things , there is no insta police  
> they may arrest him after

The real police also issue punishments that mean something, instead of just putting a negative number on your file, and allowing you to roam freely in your capsule. Only pouncing on you if you board an actual ship.

What Concord does is the proverbial “slap on the wrist”. If that.

It fits the narrative of Eve being a typical corrupt third world country environment, and Capsuleers being big shots the police don’t want to offend.

Like when Pablo Escobar went to prison in Columbia. But he had visitors at all hours of the day, including prostitutes. Plenty of alcohol and drugs. I think after a while they decided to simply put him on house arrest, and he continued to run his drug empire over the phone.

But technically they did “punish” him.

I should add to that, though, that when you entered the Eve universe, that’s what you probably expected. Some people are just mad that they got what they came for. Perhaps expected more sugar coating on their red pill?

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**Author:** ![EveSoldier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/evesoldier/32/318078_2.png) [@EveSoldier](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/EveSoldier)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/332 "2022-04-28T12:33:28Z")

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it is obvious that the pirates are going to defend their position because they get a lot of juice taking advantage of a bump in the game. highsec and concord were originally meant to be safe spaces to fly through, but the reality is that it’s not safe, they should somehow prohibit players from being able to shoot each other in HighSec. and all the gankers and pirates force them to do their activities in LowSec 0.4 and below. that way they could continue with their activities and HighSec would really be HighSec.

In any case, I don’t think that CCP pays attention to this matter. But it would be fair if he did.

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**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/333 "2022-04-28T12:34:36Z")

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> [@EveSoldier](#):
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> highsec and concord were originally meant to be safe spaces to fly through

I don’t think they were

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**Author:** ![GalactusGalactuss](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galactusgalactuss/32/423434_2.png) [@GalactusGalactuss](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/GalactusGalactuss)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/334 "2022-04-28T14:10:12Z")

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Calm down miner. As KING of high sec I hereby declare your concerns to be invalid. Please purchase the proper permit that will allow you to mine asteroids in high sec at once. I have spoken.

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**Author:** ![Optimus\_Maximus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/optimus_maximus/32/368882_2.png) [@Optimus\_Maximus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Optimus_Maximus)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/335 "2022-04-28T14:48:49Z")

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No, as far as I remember high sec was never meant to be a 100% safe space to fly through. Concord is there to punish the infractor, causing them to lose their ship. Concord evasion is considered an exploit by CCP, but ganking isn’t, which clearly tells you CCP aproves of ganking and regards it as a legit activity.

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/336 "2022-04-28T15:42:26Z")

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they lose their ships 100% of the time for a CHANCE to have a loot drop that give them profit  
the operation require coordination , timing , careful selection of targets  
they are playing the game in a honest and skillful way

im not a pirate , im not a hunter , im a fighter … i lost more ships than most of the forum members  
i find your complains about this subject misinformed and disproportional

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**Author:** ![Jamar\_Larkan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jamar_larkan/32/282760_2.png) [@Jamar\_Larkan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jamar_Larkan)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/337 "2022-04-28T15:55:16Z")

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A game with a shrinking population is doing something right!

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/338 "2022-04-28T16:08:56Z")

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if eve close the doors today you can say 20 years was a good run  
and “eve is dying” is a day one untruth

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**Author:** ![Remi\_Lacroix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/remi_lacroix/32/494680_2.png) [@Remi\_Lacroix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Remi_Lacroix)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/339 "2022-04-28T17:51:06Z")

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another boring thread about losing a ship. Welcome to EvE.

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/340 "2022-04-28T19:00:09Z")

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> [@EveSoldier](#):
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> highsec and concord were originally meant to be safe spaces to fly through

Nope 😃 Nice try revising history tho 😃

> [@EveSoldier](#):
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> they should somehow prohibit players from being able to shoot each other in HighSec.

Nope 😃 High sec isn’t total sec. Please biomass and boot up Stardew kthx 😃

> [@EveSoldier](#):
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> all the gankers and pirates force them to do their activities in LowSec 0.4 and below. that way they could continue with their activities and HighSec would really be HighSec.

Actually what you’re really suggesting is that low sec be made a vital part of the EVE heirarchy.

If it were up to me, LvL 4 missions and above/T4 abyss and above would only be able to be run in low and below 😃

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/341 "2022-04-28T23:47:49Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> If it were up to me, LvL 4 missions and above/T4 abyss and above would only be able to be run in low and below 😃

I agree.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/342 "2022-04-29T15:36:28Z")

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> [@EveSoldier](#):
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> highsec and concord were originally meant to be safe spaces to fly through, but the reality is that it’s not safe, they should somehow prohibit players from being able to shoot each other in HighSec.

I dash all over highsec…regularly pass through high ganker areas like Uedama…and have not been ganked in 6 months. I build ships in Jita and regularly fly ships out of there, and have never been targetted. I mine in various places as well…and have never been ganked while mining. I regularly make trips of 40 jumps or so…looking for flashies to zap or new PvE sites. Never been attacked doing this.

If I do think there will be trouble ahead, I send an expendable scout ahead to have a look. My scout has never been attacked.

Frankly…highsec is boringly safe.

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**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 3:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/343 "2022-04-29T15:44:43Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> I regularly make trips of 40 jumps or so…looking for flashies to zap

What do you do when you find them?

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**Author:** ![GalactusGalactuss](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galactusgalactuss/32/423434_2.png) [@GalactusGalactuss](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/GalactusGalactuss)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/344 "2022-04-29T15:53:50Z")

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My ex girlfriend who happens to be the Police Chief of CONCORD police department says she is too busy to protect every care bear who is afk mining in high sec. Lesson learned stop being a bot.

P.S. mining lasers cause brain damage

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/345 "2022-04-29T15:56:00Z")

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> [@Etch\_Masuka](#):
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> What do you do when you find them?

My ships evolve as a result of not making it…so i now fit 24km warp scrambler, sensor boosters, etc. My one ‘kill’ so far was the result, and I’m hoping for more. I also often act as ‘bait’…though I’m realising a Gnosis is not that good a bait ship ( people simply don’t take the bait ) so am gonna use a Nereus instead.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/punish-pirates-in-high-sec/349712/346 "2022-04-29T16:06:51Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> highsec is boringly safe.

Well, you are getting a little old to still be hiding in Highsec, maybe it’s time for someone to move to lowsec?

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