# PvE only systems shouldn't be a thing, but --

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-only-systems-shouldnt-be-a-thing-but/382729>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [November 1, 2022, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-only-systems-shouldnt-be-a-thing-but/382729 "2022-11-01T23:23:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 4:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-only-systems-shouldnt-be-a-thing-but/382729/21 "2022-11-02T04:17:38Z")

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Why not put gankergriefers in prison in real life?

That wouldn’t stop ganking, but it would make them think before they play a videogame!

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 4:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-only-systems-shouldnt-be-a-thing-but/382729/22 "2022-11-02T04:26:26Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> That wouldn’t stop ganking, but it would make them think before they play a videogame!

yeah kids this days…  
back them we thought about being in a cage for the rest of our lives before playing a video game  
they take no responsibility

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 4:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-only-systems-shouldnt-be-a-thing-but/382729/23 "2022-11-02T04:28:21Z")

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PvP videogames are just cyberbullying.

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**Author:** ![Wadiest\_Yong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wadiest_yong/32/426921_2.png) [@Wadiest\_Yong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wadiest_Yong)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 5:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-only-systems-shouldnt-be-a-thing-but/382729/24 "2022-11-02T05:56:33Z")

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Suggestion: someone make a Nerf Ganking Megathread to reduce the number of spam threads.

Also, what happened to the “Player Suggestions” subsection for this type of suggestions ?

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-only-systems-shouldnt-be-a-thing-but/382729/25 "2022-11-02T10:18:07Z")

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> [@Nico\_Christened](#):
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> essentially it’s committing murder

No it isnt

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**Author:** ![Tzashrah\_Praankar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tzashrah_praankar/32/354043_2.png) [@Tzashrah\_Praankar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tzashrah_Praankar)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-only-systems-shouldnt-be-a-thing-but/382729/26 "2022-11-02T14:05:15Z")

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> [@Nico\_Christened](#):
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> I don’t even live in high sec

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/8/1/a816fd91caa89033ab77ab8f3cc2872d757e68f6.gif)

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**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-only-systems-shouldnt-be-a-thing-but/382729/27 "2022-11-02T14:05:43Z")

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> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> Why not put gankergriefers in prison in real life?

I miss you calling them ‘gankbangers’. Bring that back.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-only-systems-shouldnt-be-a-thing-but/382729/28 "2022-11-02T15:00:09Z")

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1 billion isk for retro style.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-only-systems-shouldnt-be-a-thing-but/382729/29 "2022-11-02T15:12:07Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> > [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](#):
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> > Why not post in the thread already about this topic?
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> Because the trolls have to open a new one for when the other one gets closed due to too much trolling.

All of these problems would be fixed if being in a war-eligible corporation was a requirement for posting on the forums.

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**Author:** ![Bladewise](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bladewise/32/394387_2.png) [@Bladewise](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Bladewise)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 1:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-only-systems-shouldnt-be-a-thing-but/382729/30 "2022-11-03T01:24:14Z")

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Lol, actually I think all of Eve would be fixed if that were the case.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 1:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-only-systems-shouldnt-be-a-thing-but/382729/31 "2022-11-03T01:46:06Z")

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> [@Nico\_Christened](#):
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> A huuuge security hit should happen per gank. After 2-3 ganks a person should be -10 or close.

That miner beside you is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Tags costs money.

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**Author:** ![Rekindle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rekindle/32/382332_2.png) [@Rekindle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rekindle)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-only-systems-shouldnt-be-a-thing-but/382729/32 "2022-11-03T09:34:51Z")

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Its time to ask what value gankers really bring to the game and if its worth keeping archaic systems around to protect them. It won’t be a popular idea on the forums since most of the people who hang here now are in favor of this low brow game play.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-only-systems-shouldnt-be-a-thing-but/382729/33 "2022-11-03T09:51:40Z")

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Do you ever have anything practical to add or is the only thing you know how to do is make ad homs?

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**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-only-systems-shouldnt-be-a-thing-but/382729/34 "2022-11-03T10:10:10Z")

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> [@Rekindle](#):
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> Its time to ask what value gankers really bring to the game and if its worth keeping archaic systems around to protect them. It won’t be a popular idea on the forums since most of the people who hang here now are in favor of this low brow game play.

look dude

ganking is the business of the princess and her crew  
most of the forum users are NOT gankers

the thing is ,  
no one likes authoritarian people  
no one likes to be called names like grifter  
no one likes people whit hidden agendas  
also no one likes people that don’t know much about our favorite game and keep insisting to change everything

is more a question of rejection than a question of love for ganking itself

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**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-only-systems-shouldnt-be-a-thing-but/382729/35 "2022-11-03T10:29:17Z")

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> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#):
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> most of the forum users are NOT gankers
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> the thing is ,  
> no one likes authoritarian people  
> no one likes to be called names like grifter  
> no one likes people whit hidden agendas  
> also no one likes people that don’t know much about our favorite game and keep insisting to change everything

Preach, brother.

It’s like people don’t understand the feeling of what actual freedom means these days. And need to rely on external god-like beings like CCP to give them any false sense of it.

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**Author:** ![Mii\_Lady](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mii_lady/32/380260_2.png) [@Mii\_Lady](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mii_Lady)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-only-systems-shouldnt-be-a-thing-but/382729/36 "2022-11-03T10:47:22Z")

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No. nowhere should be 100% safe. end of discussion.

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**Author:** ![Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jayce_fitzpatrick/32/383289_2.png) [@Jayce\_Fitzpatrick](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jayce_Fitzpatrick)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 11:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-only-systems-shouldnt-be-a-thing-but/382729/37 "2022-11-03T11:44:46Z")

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> [@Io\_Koval](#):
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> It’s like people don’t understand the feeling of what actual freedom means these day

I’m pretty sure freedom means you are free to do whatever, as long as it aligns with my views and values. A happy society where everyone gets along 👍

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**Author:** ![Rekindle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rekindle/32/382332_2.png) [@Rekindle](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rekindle)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-only-systems-shouldnt-be-a-thing-but/382729/38 "2022-11-03T13:21:22Z")

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> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#):
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> Do you ever have anything practical to add or is the only thing you know how to do is make ad homs?

All I see is a bunch of triggered forum regulars driving my point home.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-only-systems-shouldnt-be-a-thing-but/382729/39 "2022-11-03T14:38:57Z")

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So, no, you dont do anything else.

Might as well be a bot.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2022, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-only-systems-shouldnt-be-a-thing-but/382729/40 "2022-11-03T16:58:48Z")

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> [@Rekindle](#):
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> Its time to ask what value gankers really bring to the game

Posted by yet another Lucas alt that killboard shows has brought no value to the game since June 2020.

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