# PvE Roundtable - Saturday 31st of March **URL:** \ **Category:** Assembly Hall\ **Created:** [March 15, 2018, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-roundtable-saturday-31st-of-march/63188 "2018-03-15T17:56:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Erethond](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erethond/32/11049_2.png) [@Erethond](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erethond)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-roundtable-saturday-31st-of-march/63188/223 "2018-04-05T17:28:13Z")
Finally done listening to the roundtable. My thoughts: - Resource Wars: - Improving social PvE - The Agency - FOBs/Sotiyos - Missions ---
**Author:** ![EveDataRules](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/evedatarules/32/52946_2.png) [@EveDataRules](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/EveDataRules)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-roundtable-saturday-31st-of-march/63188/224 "2018-04-05T18:11:00Z")
FOBs do not spawn on SiSi ---
**Author:** ![Erethond](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erethond/32/11049_2.png) [@Erethond](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erethond)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-roundtable-saturday-31st-of-march/63188/225 "2018-04-05T18:31:39Z")
I just warped to one on SiSi, you should check them out šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-roundtable-saturday-31st-of-march/63188/226 "2018-04-05T19:43:56Z")
> [@Erethond](#): > > pick up some items from a specific ship that can spawn anywhere but needs to be tackled otherwise it warps off when damaged. Why? Do you want to earn isk or losing isk by trail by fire on your quest to make your tackle fit work under pressure. ---
**Author:** ![Erethond](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erethond/32/11049_2.png) [@Erethond](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erethond)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-roundtable-saturday-31st-of-march/63188/227 "2018-04-05T20:14:31Z")
I stated that as an example of optional objectives. You chose which: - Donā€™t want to compromise your fit to add a point, donā€™t do it: Just shoot at the ship a few times and itā€™ll warp off. - Think you can get a bit of extra money from it? Just want a challenge in your mission? Do it with a point fitted, get in range, kill and loot ship, proceed to complete mission. You can chose to sacrifice either tank, cap, application, (or whatever else you get from your mids) or the reward (by not completing the _optional_ objective). Might be it took you so much extra time with the ā€œpoint fitā€ that it wasnā€™t worth it, wellā€¦ lesson learned! Donā€™t try again, or try again with a different fit next time. Might be you got it right and the optional objective was worth it! Might be you just had fun hunting that ship and thatā€™s really all that matters. Might be you had a newb friend who could fly a gank cruiser with a point, so he came along and now you share greater rewards than if you soloā€™d it but ignored the prize ship. Itā€™s an option, _you_ decide if you want to do it or not. If it is balanced right, whether it is worth it or not will depend on players and play styles. (I know, I knowā€¦ balance is hard and all thatā€¦ but weā€™re shooting ideas on how to make PvE better, anything new will have to be balanced, in fact even the old things probably need to be too, so whatever) In fact, most missions already have one optional objective: Killing all NPCs. Blitzers donā€™t complete it because they can get more rewards by just quickly completing missions. Others like to slaughter npc pirates and kill them all for the extra reward (bounties!). If theyā€™re both having fun, neither are doing it wrong. So why not more variety than just ā€œkill them allā€ or not (on missions that donā€™t specifically require you to kill them all, of course). ---
**Author:** ![Prion\_Disease](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/prion_disease/32/72640_2.png) [@Prion\_Disease](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Prion_Disease)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 6:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-roundtable-saturday-31st-of-march/63188/228 "2018-05-27T18:05:11Z")
> [@Chainsaw\_Plankton](#): > > prices in general have almost always been going down in eve you mean after inflation? šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chainsaw_plankton/32/256180_2.png) [@Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chainsaw_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-roundtable-saturday-31st-of-march/63188/229 "2018-05-27T20:45:39Z")
considering ā€œprices in general ā€¦ going downā€ is the definition of deflation, no not after inflation. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/2/6/26ed10072cbec420d6a980375c4cac2d97a4bdf1.png) Thereā€™s basically been two big events that have caused prices to go up, the first being ship tiericide (which mostly just spiked minerals for a while), and the second being the recent moon mining change, which has mostly jacked up PI, Salvage, and Moon goo products. Thereā€™s been a ton of smaller rebalances of things like moon goo, asteroid mineral comps, drop rates, and whatever else over the years. Might be fun to go through the patchnotes and try to see what got changed, for example Tyrannis has a pretty big primary/secondary spike, but the CPI didnā€™t move much. ---
**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-roundtable-saturday-31st-of-march/63188/230 "2018-05-28T08:17:13Z")
> [@Chainsaw\_Plankton](#): > > Thereā€™s basically been two big events that have caused prices to go up You forgot the minerā€™s crying river which cause mineral prices to go up for no reason. ---
**Author:** ![Predvodnica\_LSG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/predvodnica_lsg/32/63657_2.png) [@Predvodnica\_LSG](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Predvodnica_LSG)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-roundtable-saturday-31st-of-march/63188/231 "2018-05-30T07:37:02Z")
All this is ā€œmuch talk about nothingā€ which social assembly in PVE. PVE and social interaction in one sentence is **oxymoron**!!! For PVE give us tasks and then give us a REVARD. All problem with RW is lack of rewards all other reason are emptay talks. For PVE today we have only mining, exploaration and some missions and they are here for years because of revards. CCP try to introduce new PVE content without revards because it is scred to ruin the balance and at the end when all carebers and pve-ers go avay what will pvp - ers do in empty space. Big corporation patch their needs with bots but they are covered by their people in councile and they are ā€œuntouchablesā€ Give right revards for PVE and forget XXXXXX balance !!! ---
**Author:** ![Ildrara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ildrara/32/56659_2.png) [@Ildrara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ildrara)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 4:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-roundtable-saturday-31st-of-march/63188/232 "2018-06-27T04:17:29Z")
> [@Black\_Pedro](#): > > The sites are gated, which means -10 criminals cannot enter and reach a target without the faction police exploding them You donā€™t have to be -10 to suicide gank someone. You can have any sec status. But you already knew that. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2018, 4:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-roundtable-saturday-31st-of-march/63188/233 "2018-09-25T04:17:35Z")
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