# PvE Roundtable - Saturday 31st of March **URL:** \ **Category:** Assembly Hall\ **Created:** [March 15, 2018, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-roundtable-saturday-31st-of-march/63188 "2018-03-15T17:56:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 215
**Author:** ![Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chainsaw_plankton/32/256180_2.png) [@Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chainsaw_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2018, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-roundtable-saturday-31st-of-march/63188/215 "2018-03-31T07:34:19Z")
> [@elitatwo](#): > > Those SOE agents want me to shoot my Amarr buddies, so that’s a hard no. > > But can you point me to the missions that pay 200 million isk in bounty? I will give those a try. > > I do not know any level 4 mission that pay 200 million in bounty. Call me intrigued. > > The time it takes to complete a Worlds Collide or Angel Extravaganza is more than an hour. Then I head back to the agent and get my Noctis to collect metal scraps and some salvage. > > Worlds Collide pay around 40 million isk in bounty and Angel Extravaganza pays 45 million isk. > > The collection iof salvage and metal scraps pays zero isk but I don’t have to buy t1 rigs, so yeay. you can decline the kill amarr missions and while you are at it decline the worlds collides and angel extravaganza too. Just run the burners and a few other missions. With good social skills and faction standings you can decline almost every normal mission, and the few I accept pay very well. You post on the forums enough I’m sure you’ve seen a post with more details and oh yea you’ve seen the post, but you dismissed it right away rather than trying it. (or deliberately tried to spread misinformation) > [@Blitz and Burner Guide v1.2.3](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/blitz-and-burner-guide-v1-2-3/8974/48): > > This is very misleading and states the following: Make 5 accounts Buy 300 billion isk worth of cheat-stix Make trade alt Make 3x mission alt Make pvp alt with infinite isk Make raid LP for SOE launchers and probes and sell with trade alt Make trade alt use software scripted hax to make isk by magic Then and only then you get to your “200 million per hour”. > [@elitatwo](#): > > Well that would be cool but the bounty payout of Angel Extravaganza or Worlds Collide did not change and remains the same. > > However you may be right that everything is cheaper. I only have to do 2000 level 4 missions to by the same stuff for more isk than ever before. > > Battleships are an awesome example. Insurance only costs 55 million and if you don’t fit it, you almost get 70% of the buy price back when you lose it. > > Looking at it, command ships only cost 4 times as much as before, so they almost did not increase in price. Looking at HAC price tags makes me dizzy. > > And I only have to do more than 5 times as much pve to do 99% less pvp. Prices are almost good. Like I just said mission running tactics have changed, and most mission running ships have been buffed over the years. Plus burners pay out a ton of isk + lp. If you still don’t like mission payouts maybe go try incursions. And you are looking at prices of specific items, you have to look at a large basket of items, sure a bunch of hulls have gone up and down in price over the years, but many of the fittings have mainly trended down. And as I said in an earlier post many of the t2/salvage/pi markets got jacked up with the Moon mining changes, that’s going to be a short run blip, long run I expect the prices to start heading down again. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-roundtable-saturday-31st-of-march/63188)._