# PvE Roundtable - Saturday 31st of March

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**Category:** Assembly Hall\
**Created:** [March 15, 2018, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-roundtable-saturday-31st-of-march/63188 "2018-03-15T17:56:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chainsaw_plankton/32/256180_2.png) [@Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chainsaw_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2018, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pve-roundtable-saturday-31st-of-march/63188/220 "2018-04-01T18:01:44Z")

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> [@Tipa\_Riot](#):
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> The events are still the single most profitable PvE in highsec, including all of their aspects. Plus they require minimal effort, undock, run site, snatch reward, dock up, 5-10min.
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> I don’t see a decline in popularity, rather the opposite, uncontested sites in my area are rare even late in the events. … before people want to give me advice, I run them on purpose in the most crowded areas because site completion time is much faster and I get the loot anyway.

not 100% sold on that, sure when they have nice drops like the current event’s c3-x BCU they can remain valuable, but with most of the events the accelerator and skin values drop rapidly as the event goes on. Usually better off blitzing missions or running incursions and buying a few accelerators than running the sites.

> [@elitatwo](#):
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> I did try them. It cost me 88 million isk, so I will not do them again.

it’s cost me more, I also have a series of cap stable fits that should be hard to lose. Can find them in this forum post. [Burner Mission - Ship advice to solo them including fittings - #7 by Chainsaw\_Plankton](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/burner-mission-ship-advice-to-solo-them-including-fittings/9580/7)

> [@elitatwo](#):
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> Which ships would you include it that?

Almost every ship has been buffed via ship tiericide, the pirate ships gained huge buffs along the way, and nearly every weapon system has gotten a positive balance patch at some point, damage boosts, cap reductions, range boosts, and the t2 ammo boosts. If we want to go way back most missions were in game before rigs were a thing, so just adding the rig slots was a pretty big buff to mission ships. There have been a few nerfs over that time too, but I feel in general mission ships have gotten stronger over time.

> [@elitatwo](#):
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> I did. Turns out 536700857657956767567256956706 characters on grid confuse me too much and I cannot focus anymore.
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> Those incursion Sanshas are so very weird and do things only blood raiders or guristas would and a few of them do more damage than a 500 character machariel gang.

can’t blame you there, I tried some myself and wasn’t a fan.

> [@elitatwo](#):
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> Only if you can complete them. My agent does not want me to complete them but go on a roam in lowsec. 12 jumps is a long way and on my way there, I make 0 isk per hour or any time frame.
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> I still have little to no use for my millions of LP and I will not move to high populated areas.

yea the burner spawn’s are a bit wonky, can go to the next constellation so it’s a lot easier to end up in lowsec compared to normal missions. It also tries to find empty systems so it will probably try and send you to that lowsec often.

> [@elitatwo](#):
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> You mean, since one guy sold all of its 2 SOE LP for 400 trillion isk, it is now they way of doing things.
> 
> There is no other. Everyone must comply. If you do not sell your LP for 400 trillion isk you suck so bad and should go home and biomass amirite.

You can check the market history for prices and trade volume and figure out what the historical isk/lp conversions have been. The LP store costs don’t change, and the mineral basket to build items usually stays pretty constant, but if you really wanted you could calculate it with those prices included too.

SOE has mostly been between 1200-2000 isk/lp Right now it’s mostly in the 1200-1500 range.

you used to have to build your own spreadsheet to figure out isk/lp but now [LP Store - Return on ISK](https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/lpstore/) does it all for you. It’s usually accurate but can have some lag if prices are rapidly changing.

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