# PvP vs bullying

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pvp-vs-bullying/170287>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [June 28, 2019, 10:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pvp-vs-bullying/170287 "2019-06-28T10:23:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pvp-vs-bullying/170287/204 "2019-07-03T21:04:27Z")

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> [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](#):
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> In reality, what happens in our minds REALLY HAPPENS! What happens on Tranquility REALLY HAPPENS! What happens in a boxing ring can kill you. What happened in an AOL or CompuServ chat room can lead to pregnancy or prison time (or both). It is not distinct from reality, but only distinct from OTHER reality.

Shut up Balos.

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**Author:** ![Knowledgeminer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/knowledgeminer/32/422883_2.png) [@Knowledgeminer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Knowledgeminer)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pvp-vs-bullying/170287/205 "2019-07-03T21:28:36Z")

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> [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](#):
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> I understand that in your internal “fantasy” world, all player behavior in EVE Online is socially acceptable, permissible, lawful, and “okay”.

_My_ “fantasy” world… 🙄

You don’t understand a thing. You don’t _want to_ understand a thing. Nowhere have I said nor meant all player behaviour in EvE is socially acceptable. What I’ve said multiple times is that playing a game **according to the rules** is always acceptable behaviour and cannot be considered bullying. Player behaviour that breaks those rules is **not** acceptable.

> [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](#):
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> We don’t disappear when you stop dreaming of us. To believe otherwise is psychotic (as opposed to psychopathic, the OTHER kind of “psycho”).

Who are you referring to as “we” here? And disappear from where? The person that exists in real life doesn’t disappear. The character he uses in game sure does disappear from my life when I’m not playing EvE. That you cannot differentiate between game and real life, and hence cannot understand who I’m saying disappears from where, is a problem you have, not me…

> [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](#):
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> Did you actuallly read the Wikipedia article you linked to?

Of course.

> [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](#):
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> There are multiple definitions of what a game is in it. Pick one.

With what purpose? You’re obviously not interested in having a rational discussion about this and are going to simply dodge everything that doesn’t fit your narrative…

You don’t know what a game is. You don’t know what bullying is. You have it all messed up in your head. Why are you even posting here?

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**Author:** ![Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mayhaw_morgan/32/412682_2.png) [@Mayhaw\_Morgan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mayhaw_Morgan)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pvp-vs-bullying/170287/206 "2019-07-03T22:00:00Z")

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> [@Knowledgeminer](#):
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> You don’t know what a game is. You don’t know what bullying is. You have it all messed up in your head. Why are you even posting here?

Good question. Can you please log out so I can disappear?

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pvp-vs-bullying/170287/207 "2019-07-03T22:15:10Z")

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I heard a noise.

Was it trying to say “muuuhhhhh”

Cos thats all I heard

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**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 11:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pvp-vs-bullying/170287/208 "2019-07-03T23:51:34Z")

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I suspect that was Billy, he tends to work his gag loose if you leave him alone for too long.

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**Author:** ![Khergit\_Deserters](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/khergit_deserters/32/319315_2.png) [@Khergit\_Deserters](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Khergit_Deserters)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2019, 12:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pvp-vs-bullying/170287/209 "2019-07-04T00:00:03Z")

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This thread brings back memories of the old forums days. Memories of that uncomfortable, vaguely disoriented/headache-y feeling you get from scanning through too many non sequiturs, putting words in other people’s mouths, ad hominems, etc. Muscle memories too. Your index figure rolling the mouse wheel rapidly and repeatedly, and it realizes it’s still got just as much work ahead of it in order to get to the bottom of the page. Well done, all. Eve is not dying after all.

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**Author:** ![karma\_balancer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karma_balancer/32/477046_2.png) [@karma\_balancer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/karma_balancer)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2019, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pvp-vs-bullying/170287/210 "2019-07-06T11:06:37Z")

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Phew,

Good thing i engage in Elite PVP. Nobody wants a bully.

Praise James 315

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 11:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pvp-vs-bullying/170287/211 "2019-10-04T11:15:16Z")

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