# PvP vs bullying **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 28, 2019, 10:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pvp-vs-bullying/170287 "2019-06-28T10:23:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pvp-vs-bullying/170287/81 "2019-06-29T07:01:39Z")
I assume nothing you on the other hand do, I explained why the two terms (SJW and weakling) were used, you show this as if I was talking about you. You either have no argument left so try to quit while saving face or just can’t add anything useful to the discussion and quit because of that, but surely not for the stated reason as it has nothing to do with my post and what it is about if you bothered to read it. ---
**Author:** ![Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yonna_leczarovitz/32/218320_2.png) [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yonna_Leczarovitz)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 7:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pvp-vs-bullying/170287/82 "2019-06-29T07:06:43Z")
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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 7:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pvp-vs-bullying/170287/83 "2019-06-29T07:07:27Z")
Glad you agree. Bai o/ ---
**Author:** ![Elena\_Laskova](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elena_laskova/32/11436_2.png) [@Elena\_Laskova](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elena_Laskova)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 7:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pvp-vs-bullying/170287/84 "2019-06-29T07:07:54Z")
OP This is an impossible topic. Bullying (the real thing) was normalized in EVE long ago. The people who do it are proud of their behavior, and people who don’t do it admire the others. When the majority either do something or enable it, discussions are pointless, because the majority is in denial. I suppose other have said something like this in the hope it annoyed you, but it’s still true: it’s almost impossible to avoid bullies and/or enablers in EVE, so if it’s against your principles to mix with such people, EVE will be difficult for you. Not impossible, but you can’t just look for like-minded people and play with them - if you got a group together you would almost certainly be infiltrated. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pvp-vs-bullying/170287/85 "2019-06-29T07:10:20Z")
…and then the “all PVP is violence and must be stopped” type enters… ---
**Author:** ![Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yonna_leczarovitz/32/218320_2.png) [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yonna_Leczarovitz)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pvp-vs-bullying/170287/86 "2019-06-29T07:15:09Z")
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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pvp-vs-bullying/170287/87 "2019-06-29T07:15:43Z")
Ironic considering you already quit the thread two times. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noragen_neirfallas/32/375148_2.png) [@Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noragen_Neirfallas)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pvp-vs-bullying/170287/88 "2019-06-29T07:15:51Z")
Don’t bully him 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pvp-vs-bullying/170287/89 "2019-06-29T07:16:21Z")
Your capital “d” is a micro-aggression…stop it. ---
**Author:** ![Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yonna_leczarovitz/32/218320_2.png) [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yonna_Leczarovitz)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pvp-vs-bullying/170287/90 "2019-06-29T07:16:26Z")
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**Author:** ![Elena\_Laskova](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elena_laskova/32/11436_2.png) [@Elena\_Laskova](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elena_Laskova)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pvp-vs-bullying/170287/91 "2019-06-29T07:17:04Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > …and then the “all PVP is violence and must be stopped” type enters… Runa For someone who enjoys getting into dramatic forum exchanges, you are remarkably loose with your facts. PvP combat isn’t bullying. It’s not even violence. But EVE’s reputation for griefing (using the real definition, not EVE the crypto-speech one) is well deserved. Some people don’t like such behavior on principle. Not because they’re scared of PvP combat, or would be unhappy to lose resources. But because it’s not a good way to interact with other people. And in that case, obviously they won’t care to mix with people who behave that way. ---
**Author:** ![Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noragen_neirfallas/32/375148_2.png) [@Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noragen_Neirfallas)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pvp-vs-bullying/170287/92 "2019-06-29T07:17:05Z")
Wouldn’t that be a Macro aggression? I’ll see myself out now ---
**Author:** ![Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yonna_leczarovitz/32/218320_2.png) [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yonna_Leczarovitz)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pvp-vs-bullying/170287/93 "2019-06-29T07:17:37Z")
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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pvp-vs-bullying/170287/94 "2019-06-29T07:18:18Z")
And the irony is even stronger considering your earlier posts. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noragen_neirfallas/32/375148_2.png) [@Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noragen_Neirfallas)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pvp-vs-bullying/170287/95 "2019-06-29T07:19:38Z")
Maybe my English needs work but I don’t think irony applies here? ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pvp-vs-bullying/170287/96 "2019-06-29T07:20:11Z")
Now that is ironic… ---
**Author:** ![Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yonna_leczarovitz/32/218320_2.png) [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yonna_Leczarovitz)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pvp-vs-bullying/170287/97 "2019-06-29T07:20:21Z")
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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pvp-vs-bullying/170287/98 "2019-06-29T07:20:55Z")
Ironically nobody could take you seriously. 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pvp-vs-bullying/170287/99 "2019-06-29T07:21:18Z")
![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/9/f/9f4184b8b150bea235b0b063bc457ca8dda3d3cc.jpeg) Probably a good thing too… ---
**Author:** ![Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/yonna_leczarovitz/32/218320_2.png) [@Yonna\_Leczarovitz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Yonna_Leczarovitz)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2019, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/pvp-vs-bullying/170287/100 "2019-06-29T07:21:33Z")
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