# Q1 2020 Economy Review **URL:** \ **Category:** Dev Blogs\ **Created:** [June 26, 2020, 2:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/q1-2020-economy-review/251541 "2020-06-26T02:06:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Wilder\_Shackleton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wilder_shackleton/32/269899_2.png) [@Wilder\_Shackleton](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wilder_Shackleton)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/q1-2020-economy-review/251541/61 "2020-06-28T18:43:28Z")
i have a comment on first quarter economy… who da beeep beep .thought it was a good plan to nerf all the moons in hisec? you trying to force people into lowsec and null?..half my corp quit cuz they cant survive as non pvp players… consider ---
**Author:** ![Elwha\_Lynx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elwha_lynx/32/246048_2.png) [@Elwha\_Lynx](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Elwha_Lynx)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/q1-2020-economy-review/251541/62 "2020-06-28T21:42:23Z")
Most that live in Null don’t pvp either. That shouldn’t stop anyone. ---
**Author:** ![Hurley\_Burley](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hurley_burley/32/215778_2.png) [@Hurley\_Burley](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hurley_Burley)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/q1-2020-economy-review/251541/63 "2020-06-29T07:51:26Z")
What a load of bollocks. I have plexed my main account since 2014 and a few others. For the past two months I have not been able to earn enough isk to plex one. WTG CCP. ---
**Author:** ![Xil\_Non](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xil_non/32/204015_2.png) [@Xil\_Non](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xil_Non)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/q1-2020-economy-review/251541/64 "2020-06-29T11:07:02Z")
Do you guys have any data on the sell price of minerals regionally? ---
**Author:** ![Scorp\_Majors](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scorp_majors/32/123732_2.png) [@Scorp\_Majors](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scorp_Majors)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/q1-2020-economy-review/251541/65 "2020-06-29T11:56:32Z")
> [@Wilder\_Shackleton](#): > > i have a comment on first quarter economy… who da beeep beep .thought it was a good plan to nerf all the moons in hisec? you trying to force people into lowsec and null? > Blockquote They didn’t stop at the moons in hisec… all moons were nerfed. No more of the high value ore in them. ---
**Author:** ![Erebus\_TheChin\_Sundance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/erebus_thechin_sundance/32/375165_2.png) [@Erebus\_TheChin\_Sundance](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Erebus_TheChin_Sundance)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/q1-2020-economy-review/251541/66 "2020-06-29T12:33:13Z")
I have one account, one email address I check daily because I literaly only have that one email address, in over 6 years of playing the game almost every day I have not recieved a single player survey, is this another CCP Ghost situation where you only ask a tiny handfull of eve null sec whales how everyone feels about the game? ---
**Author:** ![Orca\_Platypus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/orca_platypus/32/248437_2.png) [@Orca\_Platypus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Orca_Platypus)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/q1-2020-economy-review/251541/67 "2020-06-29T12:39:42Z")
> [@Elwha\_Lynx](#): > > Most that live in Null don’t pvp either. That shouldn’t stop anyone. citation required. Please note that “don’t pvp” and “don’t engage every piece of chicken with escape filaments in their cargohold” is very different, and its the latter who’s closer to “don’t pvp” than the one who choose unrestricted pvp zone as his living space. ---
**Author:** ![DefaultGuy\_Redshirt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/defaultguy_redshirt/32/465496_2.png) [@DefaultGuy\_Redshirt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DefaultGuy_Redshirt)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/q1-2020-economy-review/251541/68 "2020-06-29T12:40:00Z")
so by labor is more profitable… you mean BOTTING is more profitable right? NOTHING BUT FREAKING BOTS almost everywhere I go. dones’t matter if it’s HS, LS or NS… it’s more than 50% bots. ---
**Author:** ![Logan\_Zauber](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/logan_zauber/32/315864_2.png) [@Logan\_Zauber](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Logan_Zauber)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2020, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/q1-2020-economy-review/251541/69 "2020-06-29T14:27:47Z")
You are saying that by constantly moving to safes and avoiding combat probes you establish “risk free” status. Yes, I agree. Same as it ever was. The thing I use needlejacks to escape from is Wormhole Space. If somehow you lose your probes or lost your fleet in a wormhole just jack yourself out to null space and gate yourself home. No one seems to be complaining about this, because GOOD! ---
**Author:** ![Vyktor\_Abyss](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vyktor_abyss/32/378738_2.png) [@Vyktor\_Abyss](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vyktor_Abyss)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2020, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/q1-2020-economy-review/251541/70 "2020-06-30T07:47:06Z")
> CCP Convict: > “Unfortunately we won’t be able to continue providing these on an ongoing basis since it’s quite a lengthy process to get this prepared for public consumption.” Where are all the quick-witted forum dwellers leaping on this gem of irony? Would never have been missed in the good old days on the old forums… hint- CCP admits: “the economy is going so great now and everyone’s so happy watching their plex bought with real cash evaporate via taxes that we sadly can’t afford to pay someone to spout propaganda about the economy anymore”. ---
**Author:** ![Hazen\_Koraka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hazen_koraka/32/395218_2.png) [@Hazen\_Koraka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hazen_Koraka)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/q1-2020-economy-review/251541/71 "2020-07-08T17:40:26Z")
> [@Tater-nuts](#): > > I got a chuckle out of the new “fairer” economy. The broker relations update crushed two play styles, the pure regional trader and the courier contract hauler. CCP caved to the weak and whiners by adding a ridiculous relisting fee, which punished an active play style. > > The only question I have is “When was EvE ever supposed to be fair?” You gotta adapt in EVE. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/q1-2020-economy-review/251541/72 "2020-07-08T17:44:27Z")
Mining used to be the way. Now it is ratting. ---
**Author:** ![Arrendis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arrendis/32/432594_2.png) [@Arrendis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arrendis)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/q1-2020-economy-review/251541/73 "2020-07-20T15:04:40Z")
> [@Vyktor\_Abyss](#): > > Where are all the quick-witted forum dwellers leaping on this gem of irony? Would never have been missed in the good old days on the old forums… Didn’t really think that needed pointing out. In case you missed it? Water: still wet. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Boots](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/richard_boots/32/215166_2.png) [@Richard\_Boots](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Richard_Boots)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/q1-2020-economy-review/251541/74 "2020-07-20T17:29:58Z")
Once i spend all my cash reserves; im quitting this shitty game for good… GFYS ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 5:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/q1-2020-economy-review/251541/75 "2020-07-20T17:42:44Z")
Spending it on what? ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Boots](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/richard_boots/32/215166_2.png) [@Richard\_Boots](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Richard_Boots)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/q1-2020-economy-review/251541/76 "2020-07-20T20:06:22Z")
Ships and stuff ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/q1-2020-economy-review/251541/77 "2020-07-20T20:29:05Z")
Ah. To blow up. Good. ---
**Author:** ![Cade\_Windstalker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cade_windstalker/32/221037_2.png) [@Cade\_Windstalker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cade_Windstalker)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 11:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/q1-2020-economy-review/251541/78 "2020-08-12T23:03:42Z")
> [@Arrendis](#): > > 1. Unfortunately, the publicly-accessible information on market volume isn’t really helpful in this case. PLEX traders in all of the major trade hubs often sell to themselves as a way to establish a particular citadel or station as ‘active’ in the PLEX market, which artificially inflates volume traded, and makes that information unreliable. I would think this information would still be useful though, even if you can’t use it to determine the actual volume of PLEX that’s consumed the values should be significant and indicative of whether demand is going up or down. If someone is selling to their alt to mess with economic indicators then they’re unlikely to do that _more_ just because a few less people are buying PLEX. Looking at the available quantity data the low point in PLEX volume was actually fall of last year when prices stalled, but now volume is up while prices have dropped. Volume isn’t as high as it was when the price peaked, but that’s also kinda expected. Especially given real life circumstances that _should_ be pushing PLEX purchasing down. > [@darkbra](#): > > The biggest downward pressure on the price of Plex on the market is the amount of Plex being bought with RL money. If we were to see this graph I would imagine that it is the highest it has ever been in terms of RL money being exchanged for Plex. You can actually see the price of PLEX go up over the history of the game as ISK has become more available through various new methods of earning ISK being introduced or old ones being buffed. Back when 40m an hour was good money 1 month of account time was a couple hundred million. Also presently PLEX volume traded is up compared to a year ago, but prices are down. This doesn’t support your conclusion. > [@darkbra](#): > > The amount of Plex being bought with RL money will also mean that people have more ISK in their wallets. This isn’t correct, since this just transfers ISK between players, it won’t increase the ISK in player wallets. In fact the market transaction tax removes a small amount of ISK from the economy. > [@darkbra](#): > > However both my premise and your premise cannot be analysed until the Plex bought data is made available. This is almost certainly part of the internal report, but detailed information on PLEX sales qualifies as “sensitive internal data” for a number of reasons, so we’re basically never going to see it. ---
**Author:** ![Alistair\_Atreides](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alistair_atreides/32/267403_2.png) [@Alistair\_Atreides](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alistair_Atreides)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2020, 11:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/q1-2020-economy-review/251541/79 "2020-08-14T23:51:54Z")
> [@Orca\_Platypus](#): > > than the one who choose unrestricted pvp zone as his living space If you call living in a toilet with standup fleets a moment away “unrestricted pvp” lol ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Pellam](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jack_pellam/32/180409_2.png) [@Jack\_Pellam](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jack_Pellam)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2020, 5:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/q1-2020-economy-review/251541/80 "2020-08-23T05:21:22Z")
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