# Quality of Life : Autopilot warp to 0 **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [June 11, 2020, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quality-of-life-autopilot-warp-to-0/248431 "2020-06-11T18:41:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Flashrain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/flashrain/32/457569_2.png) [@Flashrain](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Flashrain)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quality-of-life-autopilot-warp-to-0/248431/1 "2020-06-11T18:41:37Z")
Is there any good reason to keep auto pilot warp to 10km off the gate and slow boat each time? No. It is a complete waste of time. In its current form, the slowboat portion provide zero benefit to user experience. In fact it’s less than beneficial, it’s detrimental to user experience. Especially for beginner players having their time wasted in the first few hours of game play. Beneficial to PvP is marginal in theory, zilch in practicality. It’s absolutely useless in null sec due to gate NPC’s. Put more utility back in, reduce frustration, set autopilot warp to 0 by default on both Alpha and Omega accounts. +1 like if you support this idea please. ---
**Author:** ![Mike\_Azariah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mike_azariah/32/512626_2.png) [@Mike\_Azariah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mike_Azariah)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quality-of-life-autopilot-warp-to-0/248431/2 "2020-06-11T18:46:56Z")
Oh hell no Autopilot is meant to be a punishment for laziness and afk play. m ---
**Author:** ![Lis\_Torin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lis_torin/32/204820_2.png) [@Lis\_Torin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lis_Torin)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quality-of-life-autopilot-warp-to-0/248431/3 "2020-06-11T18:48:26Z")
> [@Flashrain](#): > > In fact it’s less than beneficial Your benefit is that you can go afk. ---
**Author:** ![Brun\_Warbear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brun_warbear/32/380353_2.png) [@Brun\_Warbear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brun_Warbear)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quality-of-life-autopilot-warp-to-0/248431/4 "2020-06-11T18:53:03Z")
-1 Sit at the computer and play the game. > [@Flashrain](#): > > It’s absolutely useless in null sec due to gate NPC’s. Anyone autopiloting in nullsec deserves to be podded. ---
**Author:** ![Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkikaden_tiragen/32/243913_2.png) [@Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mkikaden_Tiragen)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quality-of-life-autopilot-warp-to-0/248431/5 "2020-06-11T18:57:44Z")
Autopiloting is meant to be a convenience with a drawback that encourages attentive piloting but allows for automated travel if a player is willing to accept higher risk in exchange. It should never be a replacement for attentive piloting. It’s a balanced mechanic as-is. ---
**Author:** ![Flashrain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/flashrain/32/457569_2.png) [@Flashrain](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Flashrain)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quality-of-life-autopilot-warp-to-0/248431/6 "2020-06-11T19:10:46Z")
A gate camp is higher risk regardless of whether you’re auto piloting or not. Some of these replies are pure elitism. No one ever says “Let me warp to 100km and slow boat for the pure enjoyment and engage in gate camp pvp”. Nearly all PvP is on the outbound segment, not the inbound segment. Only scouts sit in the inbound side. Allow warp to 0 for characters less than 30 days old. Remove it for characters older than 30 days. See how many petition to keep it. ---
**Author:** ![Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkikaden_tiragen/32/243913_2.png) [@Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mkikaden_Tiragen)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quality-of-life-autopilot-warp-to-0/248431/7 "2020-06-11T19:16:16Z")
A gate camp is of minimal risk to an attentive pilot, because you don’t warp gate to gate if you are piloting attentively. Sitting at the computer and hitting jump each system change is not attentive piloting, either. Autopilot is meant to be used when you just need to move from HS system A to HS system B while AFK in a ship that isn’t a valuable target. ---
**Author:** ![Sideways\_Bottomsup](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sideways_bottomsup/32/194490_2.png) [@Sideways\_Bottomsup](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sideways_Bottomsup)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quality-of-life-autopilot-warp-to-0/248431/8 "2020-06-11T19:33:07Z")
> [@Flashrain](#): > > Some of these replies are pure elitism. “Actively play the game” is elitism? Impressive. ---
**Author:** ![Brun\_Warbear](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/brun_warbear/32/380353_2.png) [@Brun\_Warbear](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Brun_Warbear)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quality-of-life-autopilot-warp-to-0/248431/9 "2020-06-11T19:52:00Z")
> [@Flashrain](#): > > Some of these replies are pure elitism. Nice attempt at dismissal there but you clearly don’t understand that word. > [@Flashrain](#): > > Nearly all PvP is on the outbound segment, not the inbound segment. Only scouts sit in the inbound side. Sit for just a moment and consider this statement. Did you play before WTZ? Also do you know the differences between gatecamps in empire and null? You know bubbles can pull you off that gate, right? Nobody is using autopilot in null and it’s not because of lack of warp to zero. Elsewhere camps operate on outbound precisely because of WTZ. ---
**Author:** ![Ms\_Steak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ms_steak/32/168834_2.png) [@Ms\_Steak](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ms_Steak)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quality-of-life-autopilot-warp-to-0/248431/10 "2020-06-11T20:07:16Z")
> [@Mike\_Azariah](#): > > meant to be a punishment for laziness and afk play. this. /thread ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 8:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quality-of-life-autopilot-warp-to-0/248431/11 "2020-06-11T20:30:01Z")
Oh look, yet another @Flashrain thread. > [@Flashrain](#): > > Some of these replies are pure elitism. 🤣🤣🤣 I’m sorry, but when Champion for the Carebears/Former CSM member running for re-election @Mike_Azariah is the first one to reply to the thread with an “Oh hell no” and you have the nerve to respond with this, you’re full of it. Yet again you continue to demonstrate profound ignorance/aggressive incompetence in EVE and/or try to change EVE into not-EVE. You continue to insist on changing the game instead of learning and mastering it when there are no shortage of corps out there who would mentor you, and as a result you have an [extensive track record](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Flashrain/activity/topics) of coming up with the most asinine ideas such as [making EVE more like Pokémon by introducing ship evolution](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/self-evolving-ships-unique-ships/244177). EVE is far from perfect, but the ignorant and inexperienced have no business proposing massive changes like this (yes, warp-to-0km is a HUUUUUGE deal). If you want to ask “Why is it like this? Couldn’t it change?” then yes, we’d gladly explain why it is the way it is and why it should remain that way, but you have quite some nerve calling us elitists simply because we’re more knowledgeable and experienced than you. (It’s not even as if Mike is the only Carebear and/or Champion for Carebears in this thread either.) ---
**Author:** ![Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/circumstantial_evidence/32/399551_2.png) [@Circumstantial\_Evidence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Circumstantial_Evidence)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quality-of-life-autopilot-warp-to-0/248431/12 "2020-06-11T20:51:11Z")
I don’t mind adjusting AP to warp to zero, but I understand why it exists. After years, CCP took a step down the slippery slope by reducing it from 15 to 10. Attentive gankers can just as easily blap a rich target on the other side of a gate. That’s how I’ve been caught, **at the keyboard** , hauling too much stuff on trade routes outbound from Jita. “They” can still get you, even when warping to every gate at zero. OK - except fast-aligns like shuttles in highsec. D400 made a career out of shuttles and pods. I would be denying this career choice. Hmm. ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quality-of-life-autopilot-warp-to-0/248431/13 "2020-06-11T22:15:45Z")
lol? NO -1 ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quality-of-life-autopilot-warp-to-0/248431/14 "2020-06-11T22:21:10Z")
🤖 🤖 🤖 Bot aspirations detected! 🤖 🤖 🤖 ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 11:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quality-of-life-autopilot-warp-to-0/248431/15 "2020-06-11T23:19:38Z")
Counterproposal: back to 15km and remove WTZ also. giffy edit: OP goes AFK AP - [https://imgur.com/7mzu1yt](https://imgur.com/7mzu1yt)[https://i.imgur.com/7mzu1yt.gif(image larger than 4096KB)](https://i.imgur.com/7mzu1yt.gif) AP that blingy purple!: [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/5/8/58f2232eb6bbfbdd91f1a5ede526abbe48cceca1.gif "source: imgur.com")](https://imgur.com/UMcEmhC) ---
**Author:** ![Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/archer_en_tilavine/32/461718_2.png) [@Archer\_en\_Tilavine](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Archer_en_Tilavine)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 11:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quality-of-life-autopilot-warp-to-0/248431/16 "2020-06-11T23:21:48Z")
@Xuxe_Xu no gifs this time? /disappoint > [@Xuxe\_Xu](#): > > Counterproposal: back to 15km and remove WTZ also. You are out of line, young man! ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 11:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quality-of-life-autopilot-warp-to-0/248431/17 "2020-06-11T23:22:07Z")
> [@Xuxe\_Xu](#): > > Counterproposal: back to 15km and remove WTZ PLUS go suspect for 5 minutes… _FIXED_ ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2020, 11:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quality-of-life-autopilot-warp-to-0/248431/18 "2020-06-11T23:34:08Z")
OP doesn’t know what a “quality of life” change is. A quality of life change would be something like, say, an option to turn off the red dot notifications. What OP is asking for is a straight up buff to his laziness. ---
**Author:** ![Rixa\_Pirata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rixa_pirata/32/246006_2.png) [@Rixa\_Pirata](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rixa_Pirata)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2020, 2:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quality-of-life-autopilot-warp-to-0/248431/19 "2020-06-12T02:34:08Z")
I’m with you…sometimes a guy just needs to go take a dump. Might as well have the game do you a little favor and get your ship where it needs to go in the meantime. Pay no attention to these gate camping morons. If they are any good at it, they can still catch you, autopilot warp to zero or not. They just want an easy target. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2020, 3:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quality-of-life-autopilot-warp-to-0/248431/20 "2020-06-12T03:27:47Z")
> [@Rixa\_Pirata](#): > > sometimes a guy just needs to go take a dump. Might as well have the game do you a little favor and get your ship where it needs to go in the meantime. 1 - Dock up if you need to go afk… 2 - If you are taking a dump the time it takes your overloaded freighter to AP to the other hub, you have a severe problem and should consult a doctor immediately. > [@Rixa\_Pirata](#): > > Pay no attention to these gate camping morons. If they are any good at it, they can still catch you, autopilot warp to zero or not. They just want an easy target. Of course. Typical of someone who can only see _their_ game and not what might benefit the game overall. [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quality-of-life-autopilot-warp-to-0/248431.md?page=2)