# Quantum cores make stations unaffordable for Joe/anne Sixpack, average EVE player **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 8, 2021, 5:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628 "2021-04-08T05:22:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Cel\_ah\_Vee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cel_ah_vee/32/266253_2.png) [@Cel\_ah\_Vee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cel_ah_Vee)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/364 "2021-04-10T22:17:31Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > It’s implemented ONLY for push out newcomers form the game Not newcomers. Solo players. ---
**Author:** ![hellokittyonline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hellokittyonline/32/244672_2.png) [@hellokittyonline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/hellokittyonline)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/365 "2021-04-10T22:30:54Z")
It’s not meant to push anyone out of the game. It’s meant to encourage multiplayer content by making owning a citadel more of a commitment. The PROBLEM is, it still isnt a commitment and needs to be nerfed even more. I’m pretty sure CCP knows this. Furthermore, it’s extremely obvious (to those of us that have a clue) that you should NOT be able to have your citadel in a holding Corp while you are immune to wardecs in your real corp. Changes like this may push some solo players out but we’re better off without them. If your only contribution to the multiplayer ecosystem is manufacturing (market competition for ships and modules) then you’re contributing less to the community than you are taking (competition for gametime). CCP wants your money but the Eve COMMUNITY couldnt care less about solo industry. ---
**Author:** ![Cel\_ah\_Vee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cel_ah_vee/32/266253_2.png) [@Cel\_ah\_Vee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cel_ah_Vee)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/366 "2021-04-10T22:35:58Z")
> [@hellokittyonline](#): > > It’s not meant to push anyone out the game. It’s meant to encourage multiplayer content by making owning a citadel more of a commitment Yes, I know, read it many times. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![hellokittyonline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hellokittyonline/32/244672_2.png) [@hellokittyonline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/hellokittyonline)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 11:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/367 "2021-04-10T23:55:47Z")
> [@hellokittyonline](#): > > If your only contribution to the multiplayer ecosystem is manufacturing (market competition for ships and modules) then you’re contributing less to the community than you are taking (competition for gametime). @Cel_ah_Vee yes but did you know this? ---
**Author:** ![Cel\_ah\_Vee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cel_ah_vee/32/266253_2.png) [@Cel\_ah\_Vee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cel_ah_Vee)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/368 "2021-04-11T00:24:03Z")
> [@hellokittyonline](#): > > yes but did you know this? You mean, did I know _that_ ( quote before the question, what came before = _that_ - what follows = this ) Why are you iffing me about Manufacturing? What prompted that question? Why should I care about Manufacturing? Why should I care about this nonsense of ‘ecosystem’ ? CCP bamboozled EVE players with hollow fancy words and _I_’m supposed to give a rat’s ass? ---
**Author:** ![hellokittyonline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hellokittyonline/32/244672_2.png) [@hellokittyonline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/hellokittyonline)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 2:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/369 "2021-04-11T02:41:55Z")
Because this topic is about solo manufacturers not being able to afford their own citadel… ---
**Author:** ![Cel\_ah\_Vee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cel_ah_vee/32/266253_2.png) [@Cel\_ah\_Vee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cel_ah_Vee)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/370 "2021-04-11T07:15:01Z")
The topic says “stations”. Can be any kind of player stations, not necessarily stations to manufacture in. You just pulled whatever question out your rear-end and ask if I knew that… Again, IDGAF about Manufacture in EVE. Matter of fact IDGAF about most things in the game. I’m only interested in popping ships and I care not whose. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/371 "2021-04-11T07:29:38Z")
I am wondering at what level of team playing one has to have to be able to have a structure in hisec. This is what you need imo: 120 combat characters available at all hours 7/7 24/24 A doctrine of bling ships to be able to go toe to toe with anything that might come for you. There you are the level of team co-operation you have to have to ensure your structure will survive in hisec. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/372 "2021-04-11T07:35:46Z")
> [@Cel\_ah\_Vee](#): > > Not newcomers. Solo players. 99.99% of newcomers - solo players. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/373 "2021-04-11T07:39:49Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > I am wondering at what level of team playing one has to have to be able to have a structure in hisec. > > This is what you need imo: > > 120 combat characters available at all hours 7/7 24/24 > A doctrine of bling ships to be able to go toe to toe with anything that might come for you. > > There you are the level of team co-operation you have to have to ensure your structure will survive in hisec. I have owned an **industrial** citadel just a few jumps away from a hub for over a year now. I’ve defended it three times via various means, and I’m essentially a solo player. You’re just a massive whiny baby. ---
**Author:** ![Cel\_ah\_Vee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cel_ah_vee/32/266253_2.png) [@Cel\_ah\_Vee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cel_ah_Vee)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 7:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/374 "2021-04-11T07:42:21Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > 99.99% of newcomers - solo players. **Wrong!!!** It’s 99.98% ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/375 "2021-04-11T07:44:30Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > I have owned an **industrial** citadel just a few jumps away from a hub for over a year now. I’ve defended it three times via various means, and I’m essentially a solo player. > > You’re just a massive whiny baby. Just you didn’t yet faced true wardec scum ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Raven\_101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_raven_101/32/383465_2.png) [@Mr\_Raven\_101](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Raven_101)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 7:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/376 "2021-04-11T07:44:46Z")
> [@Cel\_ah\_Vee](#): > > **Wrong!!!** > It’s 99.98% Ok, whatever. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/377 "2021-04-11T07:47:35Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > Just you didn’t yet faced true wardec scum How would you know? ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/378 "2021-04-11T07:48:08Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > How would you know? > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > and I’m essentially a solo player. This. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/379 "2021-04-11T07:51:51Z")
The ■■■■ is this? Bunch of filthy carebear cowards are trying to convince me I’m a victim? ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 7:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/380 "2021-04-11T07:52:10Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Bunch of filthy carebear cowards are trying to convince me I’m a victim? I AM THE LAW ! ---
**Author:** ![Cel\_ah\_Vee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cel_ah_vee/32/266253_2.png) [@Cel\_ah\_Vee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cel_ah_Vee)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/381 "2021-04-11T07:55:16Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > Ok, whatever. Not whatever! Newcomers are _not_ solo players since they belong in a corporation- NPC but _still_ a corporation where they can ask other newcomers to fleet with them and ask questions of senior members of said corporation since there are players in NPC corporations that have been in said corporations for years. **Solo** players have their _own_ corporation - albeit with alternative characters - but they are **solo** , meaning they do _not_ fleet with others. ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/382 "2021-04-11T07:56:02Z")
@Destiny_Corrupted used to be, as you so politely put it, wardec scum. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/383 "2021-04-11T07:56:52Z")
> [@Cel\_ah\_Vee](#): > > Newcomers are _not_ solo players since they belong in a corporation Unrelated. Solo player refer to the way you are … wait for it … playing. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628.md?page=18) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628.md?page=20)