# Quantum cores make stations unaffordable for Joe/anne Sixpack, average EVE player **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 8, 2021, 5:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628 "2021-04-08T05:22:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/425 "2021-04-11T12:16:16Z")
At the start when structures first came out, me and the people with me could defend it, now with the changes CCP made because the so called elite players of Eve found it so tough and cried about it, me and those same people are unable to defend it. It is easy enough to understand. ---
**Author:** ![Kestrix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kestrix/32/420684_2.png) [@Kestrix](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kestrix)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/426 "2021-04-11T16:10:18Z")
> [@Mr\_Raven\_101](#): > > That’s exactly what Quantum Cores update did - push out small HS industrial/moon mining corps/solo playes from the game. No I can take you to any number of citadels open to the public for solo players to do their research and production and mining complexes that miners can mine at once the moon drills have done thier thing. You don’t need to own one do be able to use or benifit from them. ---
**Author:** ![hellokittyonline](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hellokittyonline/32/244672_2.png) [@hellokittyonline](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/hellokittyonline)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 3:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/427 "2021-04-12T03:43:24Z")
Nobody bothering to attack it =/= you successfully defending it. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/428 "2021-04-12T07:18:03Z")
I thought you had blocked me, still you made no comment on my suggestion that while you and others berate people for not being able to defend structures, it is mainly because the mechanics got changed so much in the favour of attackers that we are at the state we are in now. Previously we could defend our structure and it was fun when we had to, because we could be there in our prime playing time. Now it is too easy, Eve where aggressive PvP is low effort… ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/429 "2021-04-12T07:43:28Z")
I can’t help but imagine these people’s ancestors watching down upon them from the heavens, thinking with sunken hearts about how millennia of evolutionary advantages acquired by spearing mammoths, bracing pikes against cavalry charges, and staring down Prussians in muddy war trenches have culminated in patchy-bearded, fedora-wearing nu-males sitting in gaming chairs, and with quivering lips and limp wrists typing out forum posts about “griefers making it impossible to PvE in safe space” and “not being able to defend” themselves in a shooting game that they can only play because their grandpa shoved his body into a Nazi machine-gun nest so that his squad could advance and take a hill. JFC, kill me now. I don’t want to be here when the aliens invade and start enslaving us, and these people will be giving “now hold on a second, let’s not jump the gun, and give a fair think about the cons **and** the pros of the Zorgblarian marrow-harvesting machines…” speeches when what’s left of humanity is trying to organize a resistance. Like you can read posts on these forums, and you’d know **exactly** who’d choose to remain in the Matrix. ---
**Author:** ![Argel\_OTF2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/argel_otf2/32/388676_2.png) [@Argel\_OTF2](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Argel_OTF2)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/430 "2021-04-12T07:43:38Z")
> [@Scoots\_Choco](#): > > Good. The “average” “Joe/anne Sixpack, average EVE player” doesn’t deserve to have a structure anchored. We have enough structure spam as it is already. This is literally caused by the opposite of Joe/Anne Six-pack. They’re put up by vets gaming mechanics. For some reason this topic brought out your ire at this by targeting people who aren’t responsible for it and closing the door to them. But no, I don’t like the op’s proposal either. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/431 "2021-04-12T07:45:10Z")
To be fair, most people were in the trenches because they were 1) told they had to 2) told the world would end if they didnt. At least folk today are making the choice to be as they are. Better or worse. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/432 "2021-04-12T07:48:26Z")
Not everyone was conscripted. Many of those people were volunteers who weren’t going to let others get away with ■■■■■■■ with their countries (regardless of side). ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/433 "2021-04-12T07:53:32Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Not everyone was conscripted. I didnt say they were. > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > volunteers For the first year. And just because you volunteer for something doesnt mean you want to, or you know what you are volunteering for. Or that what you have been told about the sides is true. “We want 8 and we cant wait” “Youre not volunteering? Are you a CONCHY???!” ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/434 "2021-04-12T07:54:52Z")
The point is, if those people witnessed their distant offspring complaining about competition in a “child’s game” they’d probably try to take their head off with a saber. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/435 "2021-04-12T07:57:25Z")
I imagine thats true. Further I imagine if their ancestors were of the Noble Classes they would most likely say “Zounds” and “Gadzooks” at their lack of responding to having their honour called into question as Men. Though a sabre is a terrible decapitation tool. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/436 "2021-04-12T08:05:18Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Though a sabre is a terrible decapitation tool. Didn’t stop grandpa from chasing me with one, yelling “меч, голову с плеч!” Had a full Cossack uniform and everything. I turned out fine. I think? ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 9:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/437 "2021-04-12T09:07:45Z")
Bring forth the guillotine, much better for making fops a head shorter. ---
**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/438 "2021-04-12T09:49:33Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > fedora-wearing but are they really fedoras? > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > can only play because their grandpa One of mine was a bit odd … he flew a Hurricane ---
**Author:** ![Azalais\_Selenica](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/azalais_selenica/32/354085_2.png) [@Azalais\_Selenica](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Azalais_Selenica)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/439 "2021-04-12T11:37:23Z")
> [@Cel\_ah\_Vee](#): > > Now you can’t even rub them the wrong way, they call that “micro-agression” and “passive-aggressive” and they want to put us in jail for thoughts Do my eyes deceive me? Someone forgot to “adapt or else”, eh? 😏 It sure is fun watching space-“Minecraft” and space-“PUBG” players arguing what is the best for their game while refusing to even acknowlege existence of eachother. 😆 ---
**Author:** ![Cel\_ah\_Vee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cel_ah_vee/32/266253_2.png) [@Cel\_ah\_Vee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cel_ah_Vee)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/440 "2021-04-12T12:32:51Z")
> [@Azalais\_Selenica](#): > > while refusing to even acknowlege existence of eachother I’m not refusing to acknowledge the existence of anyone. Proof positive I complained about their existence. And before you post something about my complaining, I’m only mentioning it because you assumed I refused to acknowledge the existence of something or someone. > [@Azalais\_Selenica](#): > > Someone forgot to “adapt or else”, eh? Or else what? I’d like to know what. ---
**Author:** ![Azalais\_Selenica](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/azalais_selenica/32/354085_2.png) [@Azalais\_Selenica](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Azalais_Selenica)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/441 "2021-04-12T12:50:27Z")
> [@Cel\_ah\_Vee](#): > > Or else what? I’d like to know what. While I personally wouldn’t make any suggestions as it wasn’t i who invented this approach, i used to observe many propositions on the forums advising the person in question to relocate their range of habitation to areas better suited for their type of thinking. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/442 "2021-04-12T14:04:28Z")
Surely it’s just as hard for the deccers to defend their war HQ, only with less allies. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/443 "2021-04-12T15:08:49Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > volunteer That sounds like another description for cannon fodder, but this time its eager. ---
**Author:** ![Solonius\_Rex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solonius_rex/32/388172_2.png) [@Solonius\_Rex](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solonius_Rex)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2021, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628/444 "2021-04-12T16:09:05Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > I thought you had blocked me, still you made no comment on my suggestion that while you and others berate people for not being able to defend structures, it is mainly because the mechanics got changed so much in the favour of attackers that we are at the state we are in now. Previously we could defend our structure and it was fun when we had to, because we could be there in our prime playing time. What mechanics have changed in favor of attackers, for players who are actually willing to defend their citadel? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628.md?page=21) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/quantum-cores-make-stations-unaffordable-for-joe-anne-sixpack-average-eve-player/304628.md?page=23)